Who should replace Hanki?

Discussion in 'Colorado Rapids' started by Malaga CF fan, May 6, 2003.

  1. Malaga CF fan

    Malaga CF fan Member

    Apr 19, 2000
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure, this is jumping the gun a little bit. But we have time to dream and we aren't setting or steering any policy with a little bit of healthy speculation.

    Back on the other thread, Peter Vermes was mentioned as a possible coaching prospect. Does he currently have any head coaching experience?

    Other guys I have thought of a possible candidates.

    Dave Dir - Coached the Burn for a couple of years, but they never seemed to get it together with him there. Never missed the playoffs, then again, never made the MLS Cup final (and still haven't right, well I guess we got one on them...) Didn't they win the Open Cup with him though? Anyhow, I thought he might be a good choice as he coached the Foxes during their heyday so he certainly has Colorado ties.

    I don't know, I'm not big on coaching talent. I just don't know enough about the A-league, assistant coaches in MLS, etc...

    But, throw out some names, let's see who we have to choose from and if any of these people are on the Rapids radar (well, that is if the radar is even operating, and if it isn't, we're in more serious trouble than I thought...)
     
  2. cldiscodan

    cldiscodan New Member

    Feb 12, 2002
    Steve Sampson would be an easy transition.....him and Hanki are so much alike.

    Rizo at central midfield........har har
     
  3. Malaga CF fan

    Malaga CF fan Member

    Apr 19, 2000
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I forgot Trittschuh and Bravo, although since they're a part of the coaching staff right now, it's hard to say if they should stay or go.
     
  4. pigtail

    pigtail New Member

    Apr 7, 2000
    Bravo would be a good choice
     
  5. pappekak

    pappekak New Member

    Feb 13, 2003
    Tralfamadore
    Coach Greenie, he knows about apostrophes although he should run a spell checker before posting to his website. ;-)
     
  6. pappekak

    pappekak New Member

    Feb 13, 2003
    Tralfamadore
    Pibe the Necromancer doesn't have a job. That would be pretty entertaining.
     
  7. Riccardo55

    Riccardo55 Member+

    Mar 11, 2001
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bravo?


    OK it's a few games before they'd make a change, but interesting speculation. All coaches are hired to be fired.

    Bravo is the team's leading scorer.....

    Steve Trittschuh, captain in the first year or so, would be a interesting choice,too, as I really liked his game. Too bad I don't have any sense of these guys as head coaches. Even the Balboa/Vermes etc. ideas are OK as I like getting an ex-Rapid who wants to carry the torch into the future. I'd love to see Spencer as a coach in a few years, eh?

    Otherwise, we've got a bunch or re-run hacks, ugh.

    RLH
     
  8. TeamUSA

    TeamUSA Member

    Nov 24, 1999
    Tianjin, China
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok Ok Ok, you guys don't have to yell or kick me.........I'll coach/manage the team. My first move is to bring in RapidMan at the attack position. He squirts the keeper in the eyes with the water gun, blinding him temporarily, and then any shot on goal can go in. It's a flawless plan, it's brillant in fact!!!!!

    On the serious side. Give Hanki a few more matches to see what happens. It's still very early in the season.
     
  9. Turk from Pigs Eye

    Turk from Pigs Eye New Member

    Jun 14, 2002
    Pigs Eye (St. Paul),
    How about a Frenchman?
     
  10. mjraw

    mjraw Member

    Jan 10, 2002
    Denver
    On the serious side. Give Hanki a few more matches to see what happens. It's still very early in the season.

    Why!?!

    Haven't we given him 2+ years and what does he have to show for it? Were the Mutiny underacheivers? Yes. Are we going forward? No. The time has come. Get rid of him.
     
  11. mjraw

    mjraw Member

    Jan 10, 2002
    Denver
    "On the serious side. Give Hanki a few more matches to see what happens. It's still very early in the season."

    Why!?!

    Haven't we given him 2+ years and what does he have to show for it? Were the Mutiny underacheivers? Yes. Are we going forward? No. The time has come. Get rid of him. [/B][/QUOTE]
     
  12. Bonji

    Bonji Moderator

    Feb 4, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree! He is obviously bringing issues to the players and not getting their best performance from them on the field. A manager should lead, not destroy through tinkering. I'd like to see a successful A-league manager brought up but I can't name one since I have never read about any.
     
  13. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Has to be Big Dave Dir.
     
  14. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    If you're looking for former players, Tim Martin has been coaching high school and college soccer for several years now. Also, I doubt Dominic Kinnear would leave SJ, but I bet he'd be a lot like Frank Yallop.

    Paul Holocher (sp?) is coaching at UC Santa Cruz.

    If you want exciting attacking soccer, give Octavio Zambrano a call. Of course your defense might leak like a sieve.....
     
  15. greenie

    greenie New Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Boulder, CO
    That's actually a pretty good suggestion, I'd love to see Paul Holocher get involved in MLS coaching, especially with the Rapids.

    That is, if I knew who the hell he was.
     
  16. Gamblor

    Gamblor New Member

    May 17, 1999
    I agree. Unless there is some great unknown talent that Counce has discovered, Dir is a very solid pick.

    Dir understands tactics, formations, and how MLS works. I think he could turn this group of players into consistent winners.
     
  17. greenie

    greenie New Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Boulder, CO
    One of the biggest digs against Dir is that a large number of his players in Dallas couldn't stand him. That's beginning to look like our problem now.

    Note also that he too was relieved of duty in large part because he couldn't take the Burn to the championship level.

    I think if the Rapids are going to look for a replacement for Hankinson in the long term -- as in someone that truly is capable of making the team a contender (which is what Counce promised the fans we'd get when he fired mooch) -- they need to set their sights higher than a former MLS coach who's currently out of work or a former player with little coaching experience.

    The tough part is there simply aren't too many domestic coaches that have this kind of experience, and foreign coaches will not be used to a system where they have to do everything (scout talent, technical training, and personnel management).

    The Metros grabbing Bradley is a perfect example of the knid of move the Rapids need to make if they're going to be serious about their coaching.

    I'm not aware of what the A-League coaches pool looks like, but if there's a guy with 5+ years of head coaching experience who's run a consistently competitive A-League side (and whose philosophy will work with the current roster), then perhaps that's a strong candidate to dangle a carrot in front.

    Either that or convince Arena to step down from the national team to coach our lot. :)
     
  18. Gamblor

    Gamblor New Member

    May 17, 1999
    Didn't that happen after a few years at Dallas? I think for this year it might not be a problem. Also, his unemployment may have humbled him a bit.

    The only other guy that springs to mind for me is Ralph Perez, the assistant coach at LA. He's been an assistant coach in MLS for 7 years now and has been learning from Sigi Schmid for several years. He comes from a winning orginization and may be the proper winning attitude. Maybe he's ready to step up to Head coach.

    http://www.lagalaxy.com/team/coaching.php

    He's got a very good resume.
     
  19. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was going to keep quiet, but the guy is Bob Lilley.

    Montreal Impact current head coach, before that Hershey Wildcats. I don't know where he was before that.

    The guy wins everywhere. Players would run through walls for him.

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    Chris Ramsey with Charleston Battery looks good as well.

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    Pat Ercoli with Rochester, but he may wait for that to happen.

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    Dennis Hamlet - Chicago assistant.

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    I've heard some knocks on Perez, which is why I think he doesn't have a job now.

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    Colin Clarke - Burn Asst.
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    that looks like some interesting candidates.
     
  20. Turk from Pigs Eye

    Turk from Pigs Eye New Member

    Jun 14, 2002
    Pigs Eye (St. Paul),
    Buzz Lagos of the Minnesota Thunder, Manny's dad, fits that description.
     
  21. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I always forget Buzz for some reason. How old is he?
     
  22. Turk from Pigs Eye

    Turk from Pigs Eye New Member

    Jun 14, 2002
    Pigs Eye (St. Paul),
    He's younger than Robbie Robson at Newcastle, but no spring chicken. I think he could have coached Tampa Bay before Hankinson but turned the job down. The GM there at that time had been with the Thunder.

    http://www.mnthunder.com/bios/buzz_lagos.asp
     
  23. broken paste

    broken paste New Member

    Nov 5, 2002
    englewood
    i'd guess octavio zambrano because he's still being paid by aeg since his firing from metrostars.
     
  24. Bang17

    Bang17 New Member

    Nov 1, 2000
    Colorado
    What about Lorne Donaldson?

    I've never heard a bad thing about him from any player that's played under him, professional or otherwise.

    He's really close with a number of players in the league, and he has a great reputation with people who followed the Foxes.

    He's coached many players and retained great relationships with them: Joey DiGiamarino, Ross Paule, Wolde Harris, Chris Martinez, and Robin Fraser, among many others.

    I'm surprised to see that nobody has mentioned him yet. He was the assistant coach last year for the Rapids, and the players seemed to really enjoy themselves on the field.

    Colorado Foxes Player, 1990
    Colorado Foxes Assistant coach, 1991-1993
    Colorado Foxes Head Coach, 1994-1997
    A-League Coach of the Year, 1996
    Jamaica National Team, 1979-1980
    Jamaica Premier League, 1976-1980
    Metro State College- Colorado, 1980-1984- Degree in Sports Medicine
    Metro Sports Hall of Fame Inductee, 1995
    Denver Kickers coach and player- National Championship, 1985 and 1994
    Director of DCSA
    USSF "A" License
    Brazilian Coaching License

    So why not Donaldson as the new head coach of the Rapids?
     
  25. greenie

    greenie New Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Boulder, CO
    Interesting list of players you choose, all of them ex-Rapids with the exception of Fraser. :)

    I would have suggested Lorne, however he too has left the team and the league, rather than stick with the Rapids or another MLS club. I think he's too tied in with youth soccer in Colorado these days to be a realistic candidate.

    For an interim replacement, I think it needs to be someone that is familiar with the team as it stands now. We don't need someone coming in from the outside who needs to spend their own time evaluating players. Hell, Hankinson has had two years with this team and he's still not done evaluating his players.

    For a long-term replacement, I really think the Rapids need a new direction, someone fresh that doesn't carry any coaching history of the team with them.

    For a long time I'd always thought Rene Miramontes might be a good choice, at least in the vein of giving him a shot for a year and seeing how he does. He always struck me as having a very different attitude towards players and coaching than Mooch did, but as his assistant never really expressed dissent or disagreement. Still, even though Henderson is the only player with Mooch Memories, one would have to wonder if there would be any carryover from those turbulent times.
     

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