Which is the best soccer league in the Americas?

Discussion in 'CONCACAF' started by Halo15, Apr 21, 2003.

  1. costarica

    costarica New Member

    Aug 5, 2000
    Costa Rica
    although it saddens me to say this, I would put Costa Rica's somewhere at the very bottom of the Americas....

    Our national team is a good product but our domestic league is a piece of ************....

    Alajuela almost never looses....
    Saprissa is good if you enjoy laughter...
    Cartago hasnt won in like over 60 years...
    Heredia hasnt won in 10 years....
    The rest have absolutely no shot whatsoever of winning it.

    In brief, following the domestic league here couldnt suck more if we tried...
     
  2. Pibe#10

    Pibe#10 Member

    May 1, 2003
    ArmeniA
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    yo los pondra asi:

    Brasil/Argentina

    Mexico/Colombia

    en esta Copa America se ha visto que los equipos estan muy parejos.
     
  3. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    Agreed Pibe!
     
  4. Pibe#10

    Pibe#10 Member

    May 1, 2003
    ArmeniA
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    jaja, vos si sabes.
     
  5. Debes tomar en cuenta que Cruz Azul no esta cerca de ser uno de los mejores equipos de México.
     
  6. punk_in_drublic

    punk_in_drublic New Member

    Dec 19, 2002
    ni tampoco los pumas ;)

    pero tambien se debe tomar en cuenta que el cruz azul a mejorado mucho desde que llego meza.
     
  7. Pibe#10

    Pibe#10 Member

    May 1, 2003
    ArmeniA
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Y eso que tiene que ver? el Cali que elimino Cruz Azul en penales, tampoco es de los mejores Colombianos en estos momentos. America tampoco esta en su mejor momento, y el DIM pues subio el año pasado y bajo nivel este año.

    Boca y River no los veo tan grandes como antes, pero siempre ganan, y los Brasileiros, en Brazil se juega un futbol muy distinto al resto de sud america, mas ofensivo que defensivo, pero siempre nos ganan.

    asi que todavia me quedo con lo que dije...

    Brazil/Argentina
    Mexico/Colombia
     
  8. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    exato mundo!


    amen!
     
  9. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    Santa cachucha! :eek: estoy de acuerdo!
     
  10. MIGkiller

    MIGkiller Member+

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    May 9, 2003
    Rio de Janeiro
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I have to say that the brazilian league is the most exciting and competitive. There are a lot of teams that can compete for the title and even if the top teams don't take caution, they can fallen to the 2nd division (Palmeiras, Botafogo). So there is enough of champions rotation and ups and downs among the teams to make the brazilian league an unpredictable one.

    It's better than the argentinean league IMO because in Argentina they are always the same teams contending for the title: Boca, River Plate and Independiente.
     
  11. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    1990/91 NEWELL'S OLD BOYS

    1991-Apertura RIVER PLATE

    1992-Clausura NEWELL'S OLD BOYS

    1992-Apertura BOCA JUNIORS

    1993-Clausura VELEZ SARSFIELD

    1993-Apertura RIVER PLATE

    1994-Clausura INDEPENDIENTE

    1994-Apertura RIVER PLATE

    1995-Clausura SAN LORENZO

    1995-Apertura VELEZ SARSFIELD

    1996-Clausura VELEZ SARSFIELD

    1996-Apertura RIVER PLATE

    1997-Clausura RIVER PLATE

    1997-Apertura RIVER PLATE

    1998-Clausura VELEZ SARSFIELD

    1998-Apertura BOCA JUNIORS

    1999-Clausura BOCA JUNIORS

    1999-Apertura RIVER PLATE

    2000-Clausura RIVER PLATE

    2000-Apertura BOCA JUNIORS

    2001-Clausura SAN LORENZO

    2001-Apertura RACING CLUB

    2002-Clausura RIVER PLATE

    2002-Apertura INDEPENDIENTE


    :confused:
     
  12. MIGkiller

    MIGkiller Member+

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    May 9, 2003
    Rio de Janeiro
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    1982- Flamengo
    1983- Flamengo
    1984- Fluminense
    1985- Coritiba
    1986- São Paulo
    1987- Flamengo
    1988- Bahia
    1989- Vasco da Gama
    1990- Corinthians;
    1991- São Paulo;
    1992- Flamengo;
    1993- Palmeiras;
    1994- Palmeiras;
    1995- Botafogo;
    1996- Grêmio;
    1997- Vasco da Gama;
    1998- Corinthians;
    1999- Corinthians;
    2000- Vasco da Gama;
    2001- Atlético-PR;
    2002- Santos

    Do you want more rotation than that? ;)
     
  13. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    Having two tournaments helps a lot ;)
     
  14. NASL Fan

    NASL Fan Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Los Angeles, USA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Taking into account the entire first division of these leagues...

    1. Argentina (90% of the games played with high intensity, and the craziest fans in the world)
    2. Brazil (Brasileirao: new, better org. nat tourney)
    3. Mexico (a rich league by Lat Am standards)
    4. Colombia (haven't seen it much, but it has to be better than MLS).
    5. MLS (10 mediocre teams: parity)
    6. Chile (3 or 4 good teams)
    7. Paraguay (2 good teams)
    8. Uruguay (small country, 2 good teams)
    9. Peru (1 good team)
    10. Costa Rica (Alajuense probably as good any team in Bolivia or Ecuador)
     
  15. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    we have one good team???

    in the peruvian league
    2 of the big 3 are always competing for the title the other one is always in a financial crisis

    the 3rd challenger is coming from the province teams but they always fall short
     
  16. Scarface

    Scarface Member

    Apr 21, 2003
    Mexico
    1. Argentina
    2. Mexico
    3. Brazil
    4. Colombia
    5. MLS
     
  17. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    lo dice la academia de alemanes/estadisticos:

    Así, se suman todos los puntos ganados en competiciones oficiales por los cinco primeros clubes de cada liga y se asignan al país correspondiente.

    Lista de los 30 mejores

    1) España 615 puntos .

    2) Italia 602 .

    3) Argentina 568 .

    4) Brasil 552 .

    5) Inglaterra 496 .

    6) Colombia 410,5 .

    7) Francia 401 .

    8) Portugal 388,5 .

    9) Holanda 368

    10) Alemania 358

    11) Grecia 357,5

    12) México 350,5
     
  18. Crazy_Yank

    Crazy_Yank Member

    Jan 8, 2001
    Matamoros, Mexico
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think within 5-10 years the MFL has a chance to become the best league in the Americas. It is the most financially sound.
     
  19. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    as long as talent stays to the level of salaries, yes!

    but brazil, argentina, colombia, will produce talent even if financial opportunities do not increase.

    MLS has to increase the size of the league, to compete at the other levels.
     
  20. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    CY what do you mean with financially sound?
     
  21. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    mario, more money, more guita = financially sound!

    here is comment from a caleño site on harold lozano move to mexico (feel free to translate), is has to do with CY observation:

    "Alerta amarilla para Hárold 'El Betún' Lozano, porque un jugador de sus condiciones y pasando por un gran momento en su carrera como profesional, no puede preferir unos pesos de más en México a la gran vitrina que podría seguir dándose en el 'Viejo Continente'. Está bien y es, desde todo punto de vista respetable, que un jugador veterano ya empiece a pensar en su seguridad financiera, algo que actualmente muchos futbolistas parecen encontrar en la 'rica' liga mexicana. Lo que reprochamos es que un hombre como Hárold, recientemente coronado campeón con el Real Mallorca en la Copa del Rey y en uno de sus mejores momentos en la liga española, decida marcharse para los feudos 'manitos'. Eso hubiera sido lógico cuando las lesiones lo agobiaban y llegó incluso a pensar en el retiro. ¡¡¡Pero ahora, como protagonista y figurón en la península...Es una locura!!! "
     
  22. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    teams losing money and salary cap is financially sound? sureeeee! Mexico is the richest league in America and even more wealthy that some countries in Europe!
     
  23. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    they may have 2 or 4 in trouble, true, but some salaries are high!

    no one can pay more in this continent for players today!

    see my wages thread in mexico forum......
     
  24. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    ooooooppppppsssss my bad I misread CY's post I thought he was talking about MLS!
     
  25. DanRod78

    DanRod78 New Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Kansas City, KS
    Here goes my list again:

    1) Argentina: Every games seems like a final. A lot of speed, excellent passing, excellent team work, excellent defense, crazy fans and "las diablitas de avellaneda".

    2) Brazil: Similar to Argentina, excellent players but not as exciting. I believe several argentinian teams have beat brazilian teams in Brazil in the finals of Copa Libertadores.

    3) Colombia: This year we almost had two colombian teams playing the Copa Libertadores final. There was a third team (Medellin) that also did really good. In few words, all the colombian teams did really good in this year's Copa Libertadores.

    4) Mexico: Somehow they get money to hire stars from South America that I seemed ready to play in Europe. Besides this, I don't know. The games I've watched didn't seem that great.

    The rest I would list them the following way:
    5) Uruguay: Nacional, Danubio, Peñarol.
    6) Chile: Colo Colo, Universidad Catolica, Cobreloa.
    7) MLS: Every game I've watched sucked, but the US is ranked around #10, so I guess they are good.
    8) Peru - Paraguay - Ecuador - Bolivia

    Last but not least: Venezuela (gotta represent)
     

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