Expansion impact on RSL...

Discussion in 'Real Salt Lake' started by aosthed, Oct 20, 2006.

  1. RealSandy

    RealSandy Member

    Aug 15, 2006
    Sandy
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah that is what I figured but I thought I would ask.
     
  2. Aero

    Aero Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    SLC, Ut
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe they did try and trade him. He could have been the 11th player that Prime talked about them trying to trade. It could be that Andy has very little trade value around the league. In fact, I would imagine that if he had any value at all, they would have traded him last year to unclog the middle of the midfield.

    Andy could very well have wanted to go to Toronto because of family there. RSL may have tried to trade him, but couldn't. So to make Andy happy, to remove the glut of central midfielders, and to protect other players they may not have wanted to lose, they left him unprotected knowing Toronto would take him.

    I'm sure that they would have liked to get something for him, but that may just not have been possible. If it wasn't possible, this seems like a good and painless way to have everyone come out ahead.
     
  3. ReAl Football Fan

    May 2, 2005
    Ogden, Ut
    Is it possible that Andy asked to be left unprotected?
     
  4. huntingfool1203

    huntingfool1203 New Member

    May 9, 2006
    Rumor has it that Douglas has requested to be traded during the off season... I doubt we will see Douglas around here next year.
     
  5. RedDevil013

    RedDevil013 Member

    Aug 1, 2006
    Ogden
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thats good news, now the question... is there anyone out there that would want him??
     
  6. nsps

    nsps Member

    Jul 26, 2006
    Salt Lake City
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    The Dynamo left Serioux unprotected as well. I wonder if there was some backstage dealing in the MLS to leave teams unprotected.
     
  7. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Based upon the info at 3rd Degree:

    SuperDraft

    Round 1, pick 4 - RSL picks
    Round 2, pick 17 - to Colorado for some reason - Mathis/Cunny?
    Round 2, pick 20 - to LA Galaxy via Chivas (the Dunseth for Sequiera and Jimenez trade, the pick went to LA with Dunny)
    Round 3, pick 30 - to KC for rights to I'm Freaking Crap
    Round 4, pick 43 - to FC Dallas for rights to Dunseth in 2005

    Supplemental Draft

    Round 1, pick 2 - RSL picks from Columbus w/ Hashimoto for Noah Palmer
    Round 1, pick 4 - RSL picks
    Round 2, pick 17 - RSL picks
    Round 3, pick 28 - RSL picks from Columbus for Rusty Pierce
    Round 3, pick 30 - RSL picks
    Round 4, pick 43 - RSL picks
    Round 4, pick 49 - RSL picks from Colorado for rights to Melvin Tarley

    One pick in the SuperDraft, a ridiculous 7 picks in the Supplemental Draft. In some senses this is one eight round draft (the supplemental drafy includes any players eligible for the SuperDraft, plus players other teams cut loose), and we have eight picks (though weighted to the end).
     
  8. nsps

    nsps Member

    Jul 26, 2006
    Salt Lake City
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Are you suggesting that a player who didn't make it past the pre-season wasn't worth a draft slot?
     
  9. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Walsh played pretty well in the USL, and might have panned out. It was a risk to be sure - if we had more remaining draft picks I would say "good try" and chalk it up to a good risk for the potential reward. But we're short through the first four rounds and that makes it worse in my book.
     
  10. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    That's my thoughts too. Plus there is the question of whether or not Mo has him in his plans. Andy's salary isn't small by MLS standards. It could be RSL is willing to let him go via the draft. But it could be they're guessing with the salary that Toronto FC won't be overly anxious to nab him. That is, rolling the dice figuring they'd rather protect a different player.
     
  11. tabramos10

    tabramos10 New Member

    Jul 1, 2001
    SLC
    I really don't want RSL to lose Williams. I still think he's one of the top 2 or 3 players on the team. I won't listen to any Andy Williams "laziness" arguments because they're just mistaken, misunderstandings of soccer. People see a guy with a big butt and his shirt untucked and that makes him lazy.
    Anyway, I also hope Toronto doesn't take Broome. He was good for the games we had him in of 05. Here's to Toronto picking up superstars Chris Brown and Seth Trembly.
     
  12. RSL Donk

    RSL Donk BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Aug 24, 2006
    Utah
    Club:
    Glasgow Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    and the likelyhood of that is.....

    drum roll please....

    about the same as Landon Donovan really being straight, so about 0.
     
  13. hobbes

    hobbes Member

    Jul 26, 1999
    regina, saskatchewan
    You want to really get confused? I could explain that in fact Jack Stewart is Canadian too and so is LA's Ugo Ihemelu and I believe both would be domestics for TFC had they not been protected. We walk among you . . .

    Thanks for Williams.

    cheers,
    hobbes
     
  14. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Very true hobbes, thanks for pointing out that Stewart is also of Canuck background. Fortunately RSL had enough for thought to not expose a great up-and-coming talent like Stewart in the Draft.
     
  15. RealSandy

    RealSandy Member

    Aug 15, 2006
    Sandy
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I find it odd that the league would release the names of the unprotected players... When the Bobcats joined the NBA they tried to keep it as secrect as possible by releasing names it could cause some serious chemistry issues.
     
  16. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here's the MLSNet.com mock draft, with Williams a unanimous pick:

    Mock Expansion Draft

    The draft is at 11 AM MST.
     
  17. Blitzz Supporter

    May 23, 2004
    Centerville
    Is anyone helping Andy pack? "For those of you counting at home, this would be Williams' seventh MLS team." That just shows how great any is. Seven teams wanted him that badly.
     
  18. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Draft started half an hour ago - no real info yet per USector.ca:

    "Draft Picks
    Nate Jaqua - F - CHI

    Transactions
    - none -

    Rumours
    Nate Jaqua to LA Galaxy for *unknown*
    Ronnie O'Brien to Toronto FC for an allocation and a pass on FC Dallas players"

    Supposedly a press conference started half an hour ago to discuss the list of picks?

    How this could drag out with a single team drafting is beyond me. Why we lack information is also a mystery. Thanks MLS - I'm not usually one to complain, but this is silly.

    EDIT: just added by Usector (TFC supporters group website): :** Due to the slow speed that the information seems to be coming in, it is likely they are having difficulty in contacting all of the players to let them know they have drafted, or are waiting on completion of trades to release this information. We will keep you posted. **"
     
  19. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Suprise - it's Jason Kreis!

    From MLSnet:

    "Below is the complete list of players selected in the 2006 MLS Expansion Draft.

    1. Paulo Nagamura (Los Angeles Galaxy)
    2. Danny O'Rourke (New York Red Bulls)
    3. Jose Cancela (New England Revolution)
    4. Adrian Serioux (Houston Dynamo)
    5. Nate Jaqua (Chicago Fire)
    6. Rod Dyachenko (D.C. United)
    7. Jason Kreis (Real Salt Lake)
    8. Tim Regan (Chivas USA)
    9. Ritchie Kotschau (Columbus Crew)
    10. Will Hesmer (Kansas City Wizards) "
     
  20. huntingfool1203

    huntingfool1203 New Member

    May 9, 2006
    ANDY is still here! Good luck to Kreis in Toronto
     
  21. nessie

    nessie New Member

    Aug 9, 2005
    Asleep
    Wow. I'm definitely surprised -- not gonna lie.
     
  22. Aero

    Aero Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    SLC, Ut
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. ravenrooney

    ravenrooney Member

    Sep 21, 2006
    Sorry to say it everyone, but I'm happy they took Kreis. He's getting paid way too much for his lost touch. I'm glad we're keeping Andy, too.

    Overall a good day for me.
     
  24. ravenrooney

    ravenrooney Member

    Sep 21, 2006
  25. nessie

    nessie New Member

    Aug 9, 2005
    Asleep
    Cue joke about drinking too much of the mangosteen at the Xango convention today...
     

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