Idea for future MLS Cups

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by Indoor Recess, Nov 14, 2006.

  1. Indoor Recess

    Indoor Recess New Member

    Mar 10, 2002
    Hanover, NH
    I thought of this today while reading the WSJ article on NFL games. Perhaps its not the greatest idea, but I'm curious to hear feedback. I'm sure there are other pros and probably a lot of cons.

    I think the date for MLS Cup 2007 is set, but what if starting with MLS Cup 2008 the final was played on Thanksgiving.

    I think that the audience would be captive, consider how soccer is a "family" game in the US, there would be less NFL competition (and other competition for that matter), and as a sign of strength it establishes soccer as an american game, played and watched by millions of americans on an american holiday. I can picture the ad campaigns--be thankful for MLS. It also pushes the season back maybe 2 weeks tops. I think having the MLS Cup on Thanksgiving is a step toward improving the stature of the event itself and MLS in general.

    Anyway, just a thought. File this one in Garber's busy suggestion box.
     
  2. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who would go to the game?
     
  3. Indoor Recess

    Indoor Recess New Member

    Mar 10, 2002
    Hanover, NH
    families. youth. the same people who go to NFL games/play high school football games?
     
  4. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Think they might have other plans on Thanksgiving Day?
     
  5. 655321

    655321 New Member

    Jul 21, 2002
    The Mission, SF
    I'm not a massive NFL fan, but even I watch the Cowboys and Lions every Thanksgiving day.
     
  6. Indoor Recess

    Indoor Recess New Member

    Mar 10, 2002
    Hanover, NH

    Probably, I don't know. I don't (and presumably you don't either) have any data one way or the other and we're just going on hunches and our gut.

    My gut is getting 20,000 fans into Pizza Hut park or another SSS shouldn't be impossible and the TV audience will be larger.
     
  7. Indoor Recess

    Indoor Recess New Member

    Mar 10, 2002
    Hanover, NH
    Me too, largely because it's the only thing on!

    I think having the MLS Cup on Thanksgiving would capture some new viewers who are sports fans with some familiarity with soccer.
     
  8. Amores Perros

    Amores Perros Member

    Jun 15, 2006
    Kuala Lumpur
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think most people have a father/uncle/cousin who would beat the living crap out of them if they dared touch the remote during the Detroit game.

    I don't even know anyone who likes Detroit (I grew up in WI) but we still watch that damn game every year.

    But to give them some credit you can't fall asleep after a huge meal as easily watching soccer.
     
  9. frodoguevara

    frodoguevara Member

    Mar 25, 2006
    Charlotte, NC
    Club:
    Charlotte Eagles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's not a bad idea, but oval ball is so entrenched in peoples minds when it comes to Thanksgiving that your going to have a hard time changing that, or offering it up as an alternative. It would be a way to show case the championship game though, and ABC currently does not have an NFL contract. The only thing that could throw a wrench in it is if there is an NCAA oval ball game schedualed on turkey day. ABC could never hope to beat CBS or Fox in the ratings race that day
     
  10. Indoor Recess

    Indoor Recess New Member

    Mar 10, 2002
    Hanover, NH
    Don't we play the MLS Cup final on Sunday where the oval ball is even more entrenched?

    I just don't think that's a reason to give up. A criticism like, we don't think we can sell tickets...that's a valid reason in my opinion (obviously).
     
  11. frodoguevara

    frodoguevara Member

    Mar 25, 2006
    Charlotte, NC
    Club:
    Charlotte Eagles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anyone know what the TV ratings were for the Cup this year?

    how many does Pizza Hut park sit? I know it was supposably sold out.
     
  12. dcsundevil2002

    Apr 20, 2006
    Ashburn, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It sold out with 20,500, according to MLS, which is its capacity.
     
  13. Peruco83

    Peruco83 Member+

    May 8, 2005
    Hamden, CT
    play MLS cup on a saturday night and play give the team with best record the MLS cup game, that way u get better atmosphere at the stadium.
     
  14. frodoguevara

    frodoguevara Member

    Mar 25, 2006
    Charlotte, NC
    Club:
    Charlotte Eagles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not trying to be cynical, but I'm just curious what percentage of those were curteousy tickets? You know tickets that are given away for promotional purposes.
     
  15. Indoor Recess

    Indoor Recess New Member

    Mar 10, 2002
    Hanover, NH
    Don't know about the tv ratings, but there were 22,427 in the crowd.
     
  16. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My point is, a game that relies on significant amounts of casual fan ticket buyers and travelling support is not going to draw fans on Thanksgiving. You're asking people to give up their family holiday plans and/or travel during the busiest travel week of the year to go to a game that just isn't very popular. There is no comparison to the Lions and Cowboys, who have decades-long traditions of Thanksgiving games and widespread local interest, and who include the game in their season-ticket packages.
     
  17. frodoguevara

    frodoguevara Member

    Mar 25, 2006
    Charlotte, NC
    Club:
    Charlotte Eagles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've always wanted to see a play off series; Best two out of three. it would put an interesting spin on the Championship, and increase the tension.
     
  18. frodoguevara

    frodoguevara Member

    Mar 25, 2006
    Charlotte, NC
    Club:
    Charlotte Eagles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    (emphasis mine)

    Didn't stop to think about that. You'd be having the championship in the same city, on the same day as the Cowboys home thanksgiving game. Not good for local sales.
     
  19. Indoor Recess

    Indoor Recess New Member

    Mar 10, 2002
    Hanover, NH
    And I think you have a very good point. My gut is that it can work. At very least let's agree that its worth looking into.
     
  20. Indoor Recess

    Indoor Recess New Member

    Mar 10, 2002
    Hanover, NH
    I don't think that the MLS Cup is going to be in Dallas (or Frisco) every single year...
     
  21. troutseth

    troutseth Member+

    Feb 1, 2006
    Houston, TX

    Hold on a moment. There is something to this theory. How about the Friday after Thanksgiving? I think the point is, lets get the game on during a period of minimal competition from the NFL. Also, the current Sunday schedule is horrible for traveling support. How many people cannot go to the games because of work? Hell, we had a four hour drive and it was terrible as we didn't get home until 1.

    Thanksgiving may be tough as it is a holiday, but the Friday after? You have a handful of college games to compete with but you have a lot of people off work already. I would friggin love that - I could go to more Cups!
     
  22. DC06

    DC06 Member+

    Oct 9, 2006
    Within amile of home
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Have to admit, I really like this idea!
     
  23. Flyin Ryan

    Flyin Ryan Member

    May 13, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This sums up my house. No one cares for Detroit but it's the one game of theirs people watch every year.
     
  24. JeremyEritrea

    JeremyEritrea Member+

    Jun 29, 2006
    Takoma Park, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Instead of Thanksgiving, I think they should play on Christmas Day.

    That would be perfect.
     
  25. sirmarksalot

    sirmarksalot New Member

    Aug 6, 2006
    I wouldn't go to it on a holiday, gotta spend time wiht my relatives.
     

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