Glazer/United Continued Again

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  1. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are these the "uneducated" folks who rate Americans like Spector and Rossi as highly as any other players in our youth teams? :rolleyes:
     
  2. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    Guys, we're obviously talking to f|ckin brick walls here. We explain over and over again why the fans are against the takeover but they still keep going like f|ckin broken records.

    Stupid idiotic moron 1: "The fans in england are against the deal because Glazer is american!!!!!!"

    Intelligent United fan: "That's not true because he will leave us hundreds of millions in debt, that's why the fans are against it."

    Intelligent United fan 2: "Exactly, and I guess we're anti Australian and Anti English too, since we fought Murdoch and bSkyb takeovers."

    Stupid idiotic moron #2: "Youz english people hate americans, that's why tim howard will suffer!!111!!11"

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    God...JUST STFU ALREADY!!!! DAMN YOU FRICKIN IDIOTS!! IF THE ENGLISH FANS WERE SO AGAINST AMERICANS, WHY DIDN'T THEY REFER TO GLAZER'S NATIONALITY IN THEIR PROTESTS!???? WHY DIDN'T THEY CHANT "DIE AMERICAN DIE" INSTEAD OF "DIE GLAZER DIE" YOU STUPID IDIOTS!!???!!!!



    It amazes me to no end how stupid some people can be, f|ck off already and let the intelligent folk discuss OUR club's issues.
     
  3. YankBastard

    YankBastard Na Na Na Na NANANANAAA!

    Jun 18, 2005
    Estados Unidos
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Understood, but there are some that just might take their frustration out on him.
     
  4. YankBastard

    YankBastard Na Na Na Na NANANANAAA!

    Jun 18, 2005
    Estados Unidos
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably the same folks that said Spector and Co. are going to whoop the Italian youth team. :p
     
  5. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There may be a few, just like those idiots that were burning the American flag to protest Gl*zer. But honestly I think most of the more ardent protestors are doing so because of the facts. Besides, its not like Howard is the first keeper to have had a rocky time at United.
     
  6. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, in all fairness, Spector was far from fit during that match.

    I meant that many hardcore United fans had some great things to say about those two, especially Spector after his showings in the CL.
     
  7. jayro75

    jayro75 Member

    Sep 8, 2004

    I was trying to be nice before but now you're annoying me like that other asshat... :mad:

    That is the dumbest fvckin thing I've heard in awhile ...

    Why would United fans blame one of their own for the actions of their owner just because they happen to be from the same nation.... :confused:

    A nation of 275 million people might I add......... ;)

    Where do they grow you people???? A muppet farm or something.......
     
  8. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wouldn't rank YankBastard on the same level as that other douchebag. He does raise a valid point, though I don't really agree with it. Personally I think Howard and Americans in general might get a bit of abuse, but it'll be very, very limited. The vast majority of anti-Gl*zer fans don't feel that way about an entire country.
     
  9. YankBastard

    YankBastard Na Na Na Na NANANANAAA!

    Jun 18, 2005
    Estados Unidos
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Listen **********, the muslim population didn't commit those bombings that happened, today, but there are already reports of acts of violence and vandalism in areas that are predominatly muslim.
    Like I said before, there are maybe a few people who just might take their frustration out on the yanks. I know the anti-Glazer movement is not about anti-Americanism, I'm not talking about nice muppet farmers like yourself who are above that.
     
  10. JB41504

    JB41504 New Member

    Mar 14, 2005
    Detroit

    See, that's what you think. Why can't someone else THINK something different than you. That's your best post so far. You expressed your thoughts and identified them as just your opinion, instead of presenting your opinion as a cold hard fact.
     
  11. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because my opinions are based on information obtained from the media as well as other internet sites. Yours aren't.
     
  12. jayro75

    jayro75 Member

    Sep 8, 2004
    It's doubtful that it will happen but ok I'll concede...

    I was alittle harsh on you but that muppet JB or whatever that douchebag asshat calls himself pissed me off....

    Shouldn't have taken it out on you......
     
  13. YankBastard

    YankBastard Na Na Na Na NANANANAAA!

    Jun 18, 2005
    Estados Unidos
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    :D
     
  14. JB41504

    JB41504 New Member

    Mar 14, 2005
    Detroit
    You just admitted that their have been people burning american flags. Now how that would give me the thought that there was some anti-americanism involved is beyond me. What do you think when you see that? The only thing I didn't know or understand completely, was the debt situation, and how that could bother some MANU supporters. That said, after having read the interviews with the Glazers and many other critical articles and posts, it is my opinion that people complaining about the Glazer ownership are being at the least unfair, and in the extreme, criminal and shameful.

    Again, I wish soem MANU supporters on this site would condemn the actions of the ciolent and carried away protesters with the same hatred as they do Glazer. I do not see that happening. Remember, whether you support the cause or not, their actions are deplorable and everyone must agree to that.
     
  15. Motterman

    Motterman Member

    Jul 8, 2002
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Glazer was Irish, they'd burn the Irish flag.
    If Glazer was South African, they'd burn the South African flag.
    If Glazer was French, they burn the French flag.

    It's all symbolism my dear boy. Now run along now....
     
  16. NYCgeezer

    NYCgeezer New Member

    Apr 17, 2005
    New York City
    Agreed - it's gotten a bit out of hand. Emotions run high, and mistakes are made. I will quote Mike Skinner, of the Streets:

    "Geezer's need excitement. When their lives don't provide them that, they create violence. Common sense, simple common sense."
     
  17. jayro75

    jayro75 Member

    Sep 8, 2004
    I disagree with the violence right here today....

    Read Me you Fvckin Muppet

    Can you now fvck off and die please......
     
  18. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    Request denied. We will not hate our fellow fans, no matter how outrageous or militant their reactions are. It's how they feel and how they express themselves, so why should we hate them? No I wont even go there. You can argue all you want but our views will not change to satisfy whatever you're looking for. You might as well leave.
     
  19. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And that, as I stated, was a small minority of fans from a fringe group. Your insinuation was that all fans had absolutely no other reason to protest other than that Gl*zer is American and/or Jewish. That's just plain wrong.






    That doesn't bother some supporters--its the main arguing point for nearly all supporters in their stance against Gl*zer. I don't know if you think its a minor point, because its not.






    Why is that, because they did a good job of playing to the media? Of course they are going to say only good things about the club and supporters. But actions speak louder than words, and those of us who have done the homework (or who follow the NFL) know of his actions as owner of the Bucs.






    Then you're just not looking in the right place.
     
  20. JB41504

    JB41504 New Member

    Mar 14, 2005
    Detroit
    SO you have no morals or stansdards, you just support whomever you want to regardless of what is right and wrong? It seems to me that you are a sheep. You either have no moral standing or you are not smart enough to think critically and form your own opinions.
     
  21. JB41504

    JB41504 New Member

    Mar 14, 2005
    Detroit
    Achtung:

    I don't even care if I am right or wrong. Through your arguments I have seen the other side of the argument and find some validity to what you are saying. I believe for you and the majority of Posters on this board that the issues are as you have explained them. I still believe that there are other reasons for the protesters in England who have gone overboard.

    That said, Posters like JAYRO are rude and really do a disservice to most of the posters on these boards who can disagree and not get offended at every disagreement.
     
  22. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    Morals? Stansdards? I didnt know that was a word. I think Standards is the word most similar to that, did you mean to type that? Oh PUH LEEZE dont give me that horsesh|t.

    It still baffles me why you're so obsessed with coming here, and like a broken record on a 8 track, you keep spewing the same bull over and over and over, ignoring the reasons we have put forth. This argument should have finished a looong time ago, you came with your nonsense, we explained the rationale behind the fans' anger. Yet....you persist? You insist on repeating the same things over and over again, and with each post you irritate all of us that further.

    You're not arguing because of "moral stansdards", you're arguing because you're American. You look at the media, see the fans reaction, and do this little equation: "I'm american, Glazer's american. English fans protest against Glazer, therefore I must defend him at any cost, even if it means driving people up the wall with my fake self-righteous dogpoop" That's why you continue to argue, not because we have no "morals", but because you feel the need to defend a fellow American. :rolleyes:
     
  23. Motterman

    Motterman Member

    Jul 8, 2002
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    JB, you are 29 posts into the BigSoccer experience and the seemingly first thing you have done is come onto the Manchester United forum and said some pretty harsh things about some of our fans. You might need to build up some credibility so that people might take the time to seriously respond to some of your more over-the-top charges you've levied against our brethren. However; since you've admitted that you're not even a Manchester United fan, and you've pretty much only succeeded in negative reactions from most of our regular posters - or dismissed the serious ones you have gotten - it seemingly appears that your agenda here is not simply to discuss the Glazer situation at Manchester United at all, but rather to incite some pretty significant negative reactions.

    You can't yell Fire in a theater without being held accountable, and you can't yell "Anti-American/Anti-Semite" in here either.

    Please leave this thread or significantly tone down your rhetoric or I will take steps to do it for you.
     
  24. Vermont Red

    Vermont Red Member

    Jun 10, 2003
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe I haven't seen all the details, but as far I know, so far the protesters have burned Glazer in effigy, barricaded his sons in OT, burned season ticket renewals, sang songs about Glazer and probably drank a few pints. Hardly immoral.

    When someone takes a crap in the owner's box at OT then (after laughing) I'll be ashamed. Otherwise, it doesn't seem that bad.
     
  25. JB41504

    JB41504 New Member

    Mar 14, 2005
    Detroit
    Yes Gus!! I'll try harder to drink the milk you want me to drink.
     

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