Transfer Thread 2021/2022

Discussion in 'Borussia Dortmund' started by eaglespark, May 25, 2021.

  1. eaglespark

    eaglespark Member+

    Apr 9, 2015
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    To be honest apart from right back, I am that unhappy with the defence. We have Hummels, Akanji, Zagadou, Coulibali and Can for CB. That's a good selection for any team.

    It's a disgrace we don't have a good RB still.

    Also I think it's time we realised.

    Brandt, Reyna and Bellingham are all attacking midfielders. Bellingham is not a box to box midfielder. He runs about a lot, but he doesn't actually offer much defensively or in the build up. He is an attacking midfielder.
     
  2. HockeytownHeel

    HockeytownHeel Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 23, 2018
    We are apparently interested in McKennie from Juventus who would solve a lot of our problems. He can fit at RB but that is not his preferred position. He is better suited chasing down and winning back the ball in the midfield.

    We are apparently trying to get Juve to take Witsel and cash to get this deal done. I would love to see it.
     
  3. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    McKennie for Witsel would be good business despite him being a recent Schalke player, with the additional caveat that he and Bellingham would be quite redundant in terms of their traits.
     
  4. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Juve won’t accept a Witsel swap surely?

    A loan deal for McKennie would seen more realistic.
     
  5. eaglespark

    eaglespark Member+

    Apr 9, 2015
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    Yeh Juve definitely won't go for it.


    I am now hearing that we are going in for Halstenberg. If we sign Halstenberg then I think I think Zorc and Watzke have been detrimental. I was loyal to these two for what they have done for the club, but they have gone too far. This is the last stupid deal. Wasting money when we clearly need a right back and a winger and possibly even a 6 if Dahoud can't do it.

    @astrophyz why do we argue over whether we need a RB or a winger? The truth is we badly need both.

    Edit
    Even worse it seems Haalands release clause might be active from the January transfer window. The club has been shambles.

    I feel for Rose. It's virtually impossible to achieve something meaningful with the stupid hand the board have dealt him.
     
  6. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #381 Alex C, Aug 23, 2021
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2021
    If that’s the case and Bayern are a long way ahead come January, which is possible, Haaland will be frustrated at the teams inability to compete and might be willing to leave there and then. For that price EPL clubs will make a move as soon as the release clause kicks in, in today’s striker market that figure is a bargain especially given his age.

    The club needs to try and make sure that it can at least stay in touch for most of the season, to do that at least 2 signings are needed imo.
     
  7. eaglespark

    eaglespark Member+

    Apr 9, 2015
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    Let's see what happens with Kane. If he goes to City then only United in the Premier League can afford him so more likely he goes to Madrid.

    It's a mess. We have completely ruined our position of strength.
     
  8. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    It appears the club are at least aware of the positions that need strengthening, however whether anything can be done in the next week remains to be seen. A possible loan deal for Valentino Lazaro is the latest rumour.
     
  9. astrophyz

    astrophyz Member

    Sep 23, 2016
    Boston, USA
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Egypt
    I didn't argue against a winger. I argued against a DM. I think a winger would be good, but if we have limited budget then the priority goes to a RB. We are lacking in the creativity department, esp if Reus is not in top form. I am, however, optmistic about Malen.
     
  10. eaglespark

    eaglespark Member+

    Apr 9, 2015
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    I know, I was saying we argue about the priority. I think a winger is the priority, because when Reus is not in top form we are going to really struggle. You were arguing a RB is priority. The truth is both are priority and we need both.

    I still think the 6 is also vital, which is precisely why Dahoud has been moved there to try and fix the issue. Hopefully he will be able too.

    We need to sell smart, not waste money and build a complete squad.
     
  11. astrophyz

    astrophyz Member

    Sep 23, 2016
    Boston, USA
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Egypt
    Oh.. I see. In a way we're both right. I think the priority is a creative player. So if we find a more creative winger, we should get him and play Meunier/Can as RB. And similarly we can play Malen as winger if we find a creative RB who can defend.
     
    eaglespark repped this.
  12. eaglespark

    eaglespark Member+

    Apr 9, 2015
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    Yet bought Malen and it looks like we are going to sign Halstenberg. Its hard to fathom the madness.

    To put things in perspective we chose signing Bellingham over Hakimi or a top midfielder.
     
    TimBenneth repped this.
  13. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    So what do people think of Lazaro? Sort of covers both positions being a rwb/rw and is well known to Rose. Signing him and Halstenberg would point towards a switch to 3 at the back.
     
  14. eaglespark

    eaglespark Member+

    Apr 9, 2015
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    Have to be honest and though, he played at Gladbach I never really paid him much attention. However, it's a panic last minute signing, because Zorc didn't do his job. From what I read it looks to be a waste of money, but desperate times calls for desperate measures. If that's all that can be done then it's worth getting him on loan, but someone has to be accountable for this. It's even worse than when we started the season without a striker.
     
  15. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Delaney is in Sevilla.
     
  16. TimBenneth

    TimBenneth Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Uruguay
    May 10, 2017
    Yes, Bellingham over Hakimi was strange ... but you know what was even worse ? Bringing in another clubs player and developing him for them, so they can sell him for 40 mil Euros .... and not having a buy clause on the loan. Watzke is beyond it at this point ... the more I come to think about it, I can't help but think that maybe Watzke maybe just lucked on a situation where Klopp saved the club, and Watzke just happened to be there ...

    Man, it is so sad to see the way this club has been mishandled. Even watching the interviews he does, brings me nothing but repulsion.
     
    eaglespark repped this.
  17. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    I've been having that thought for the past two and a half years, that Watzke got lucky when he hired Klopp.

    No doubt he did a great job pulling the club out of financial ruin and steadying the ship, but he's clearly not the one to help the club take the next step.

    What frustrates me the most is that many local fans will insist that Watzke is doing a great job because of the financial stability. They are every bit as complacent and devoid of ambition as the management.
     
    TimBenneth repped this.
  18. TimBenneth

    TimBenneth Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Uruguay
    May 10, 2017
    You know what is wierd man, there was a guy on these forums who was always bashing Watzke and Zorc, and I thought it was overblown ... but in retrospect, I think perhaps I waylaid a little too long in coming to these realisations. Just the interviews and the way Watzke lauds Bayern, its like why even bother at this point ... just walk over there and hand them the title yourself every season because u don't have it in u to fight for it. At this point, the mistakes this management have made are a littany of mismanagement and errors. Lewa contract haggling for 1 mil Euro salary (do you know how ridiculous that is ... 'Oh we are trying to save the club from bankrupcy', seriously, 1 mil annual Euro salary to a guy that just scored 30 goals for u last season is going to bankrupt the club !??), Gotze buy out clause being so small for your star player, brining Hakimi without a buy clause, dealing with Riaola again with buying Malen, no RB, going on Television and saying once Bayern get their groove back we will not be top, no RB or last minute purchases, no squad planning, not firing Favre when he shuld have, throwing his own coaches under the bus in the media ... I mean like when does this idiot just stop !! This club is a joke ... its the mentality, we want to make Champions League money, but young English players so we can sell them for money. Okay nobody is saying no, but maybe 1 or 2, not the whole fuking team, and then playing them when they are not ready ! I mean yes, they will come good, but you can't play 17 year old Bellingham over Dahoud when you are playing Bayern ... what are these people doing ?? Like, can't they see that they are fking up the club with their mismanagement ?? I mean, no wonder Klopp left ... dude got fed up of this sh!t and knew he wasn't going to win anything here with the penny pinching of Watzke. When they let Hakimi go ... they had Sancho who they knew they were going to sell for silly money the next season, why not buy both Bellingham and Hakimi, it didn't need to be one or the other ... better yet, put a dam.n clause in the loan contract so you are not developing another clubs young players so they can make money, but no ... they went and did the same the very next year with Reinier.

    The happiest day for following this club since 1993, i remember we lived in a forest in East africa, and we used to have one of those antennas where you would have to push the two metal wires to get signal ... will be the day that Watzke leaves. Forget the titles under Klopp, thE CL trophy in the 90's. The happiest day for me supporting this club ... is the day Watzke walks his @SS out of this club once and for all. I seriously can not stand that dude.
     
    kbvb, Alex C and BVBFNM repped this.
  19. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Fingers crossed that Watzke finally decides to step down come 2024 when his contract expires, and that his successor has ambitions way beyond merely turning a profit.

    Say what you will about the previous management. Sure, they drove the club into the ground financially, but at least they were aiming for the stars.
     
  20. hava

    hava Member+

    Apr 30, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Watzke may be going 40 in a 50 zone but aiming for the stars while driving off the cliff wasn't something to imitate...Jesus Christ.
     
    Alex C repped this.
  21. TimBenneth

    TimBenneth Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Uruguay
    May 10, 2017
    Fcuk 40 ... that dude is driving with the breaks on
     
    BVBFNM repped this.
  22. hava

    hava Member+

    Apr 30, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    And his predecessors threw the brakes out completely...to fly off the cliff, remember?
    Seriously though, I loved Meier and Niebaum, especially how much more sophisticated and eloquent they were in comparison with their Schalke counterparts. But we need to find a way between the extremes.

    Anyways, I'm feeling a bit reminded of the Bosz failure who didn't have the players to play his system perfectly, in my opinion. Reportedly, Rose wants flexibility and several formations, so he might not be married to the diamond. In the Bosz season, the usually calm Stöger had this interview after the disastrous Bayern match and two points he made stuck with me: 1. The club needs to know where they want to go and what their real ambitions are. 2. If they want a certain style/formation, then you need the players for it.

    That's the thing that is bothering me more because the same could be said today. It often feels we force at least some of the players into a system that isn't a good fit. Even worse, it seems we actively go for the wrong types too often. The Halstenberg rumors seem to be over but for me it seemed strange to get this player for the type of football we've seen from Rose so far.
     
  23. eaglespark

    eaglespark Member+

    Apr 9, 2015
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    100% and the reason is because there is no vision about what style of football we want to play let alone the ambition.

    I made a thread, but Reyna, Brandt are not players that fit together with Malen, Bellingham and even Haaland to an extent.

    Delaney, Witsel don't fit in with Dahoud/Brandt.

    Meunier does not fit into a back four with Hummels and Raphael.

    If you are playing Raphael then you need a winger to keep the width etc.
     
  24. HockeytownHeel

    HockeytownHeel Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 23, 2018
    McKennie solves a lot of problems as he is box to box and yet we dont want to spend to the money to get him. He can play RB as he has in the past but he is certainly the missing piece at CDM that we need. I know we need a winger but perhaps having someone who can win the ball and get it upfield quickly is something that would help.
     

Share This Page