NBC Sports Networks thread

Discussion in 'TV, Satellite & Radio' started by SirFozzie, Aug 8, 2015.

  1. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite Fancy Title Here

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm kind of interested to know when NBCSN will actually go off the air. Since the start of 1/1/2022 ET, they've showed a loop of how programming has moved to USA. This is viewable and recordable. Technically speaking...is it truly off the air?

    Usually when these things happen, the provider will show some sort of card: "Such and such channel is off the air. We apologize for the inconvenience."

    I still think it was a bad idea. ABC has ESPN. CBS has CBS Sports Network. Fox has FS1. NBC has...a channel that shows a variety of live sports mixed in with reruns of Dick Wolf shows.
     
  2. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Depends on provider. I dual subscribe to DIRECTV Stream and Sling Blue. AT&T is showing the NBC-produced loop. Sling (and I presume Dish also) is using a provider-generated card.
     
  3. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite Fancy Title Here

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hulu doesn't have it at all.
     
  4. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite Fancy Title Here

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And now, sometime in the last 2-3 days, U-Verse switched to a blue title card with a message about how it went off the air with programming moving.

    1640 UMC with the program guide saying "Important Information Regarding NBCSN" in two-hour blocks.
     
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  5. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just looking up where the North London Derby is gonna be shown, and here's NBC's plan for this weekend's EPL... a glimpse of our future? And not a particularly pleasant one IMHO...

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  6. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are those blanks USA network games or are there some games unavailable in the US?
     
  7. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The blanks are USA. Arlo White and Lee Dixon are broadcasting Man City vs. Chelsea, and I'm wondering if it's the first time NBC used their announcers for a nontelevised game. Burnley vs. Leicester was postponed.
     
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  8. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Aha. I should've cross-checked it with my TV's guide.

    However, I can say that not all the blanks are for USA... some are just blank, i.e. no TV broadcast, e.g. the North London Derby at 11:30am Sunday.

    I guess their website team haven't figured out how to scan the USA logo into the above table? :p
     
  9. lynne

    lynne Member+

    Oct 11, 2003
    Where does this table come from?
     
  10. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite Fancy Title Here

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    "Everything's streaming. Cancel your cable. Get Hulu."

    I'm just sitting here laughing. Karma.

    Hulu for at least $65/mo (no RSN) plus Peacock, Paramount+, Netflix, HBO Max...remind me again why it's popular to cancel cable for something relatively equal.
     
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  11. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite Fancy Title Here

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Tottenham is quite upset that Arsenal decided to postpone that game.
     
  12. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Everybody hates their cable company and fantasizes about the day they can finally send that box back and be done with them!

    Personally, as soon as a viable internet alternative is available at my house (starlink, 5G wireless, competing wired provider) which I'm expecting this year and next, im going to be live streaming my ride to the post office to send in my Comcast equipment. It's a day I've been dreaming about forever!

    Yes, I know that ultimately Comcast has a better value than I can get by piecing together internet and a few streaming platforms together, but very few things in my life have have generated as much hatred than Comcast. I hate every single thing about the company and I hope they go bankrupt tomorrow while the labor market is hot.

    I'll gladly pay a bit more and have a wonkier interface just to be done.
     
  13. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite Fancy Title Here

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2288 Kryptonite, Jan 15, 2022
    Last edited: Jan 15, 2022
    I guess I must be lucky.

    Other than the occasional glitch (all relatively easily solved), I've had no issues. Of course, I don't live in a Comcast area and have 1G fiber at my address.

    When it comes to price, the only major difference is the lack of rental equipment. You pay $30 or $40 whatever for a Chromecast or Roku and that beats $15 or even $45/mo for equipment...add DVR fees and multiple box fees.

    The cloud-based stuff is nice though. I'll admit that.

    I'm reminded of when Oliver Tse used to post here about Dish CEO Charlie Ergen being "Cheap Charlie" for his continued hardball at almost every channel negotiation. As streaming customers are finding out, that "cheap service" they have can have two meanings.

    It's asinine they can't get a deal signed for the RSNs. DirecTV Stream figured it out.
     
  14. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like DIRECTV Stream since it basically replicates traditional pay TV, but without the equipment rental costs.

    Also, since my internet's through AT&T, I get the data cap removed for bundling.
     
  15. drt2k3

    drt2k3 Member

    Jul 1, 2005
    Wilmington, NC
    Club:
    Wilmington H.

    They don't want a deal unless it involves a la carte
     
  16. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Men in Blazer used to show up frequenly on NBCSN, every new episode. Last weekend I noticed that they shoved it to Peacock instead of USA. Perhaps that's its new permanent home. :(
     
  17. the5timechamp

    the5timechamp Member+

    Nov 3, 2012
    Honestly in the last 2 years I have not watched any shows on cable beyond using it as background noise..

    the ONLY thing I use cable for is for US Soccer and MLS broadcasts…

    Im considering cancelling the cable, so I checked ESPN+ to see how easy its to go back and watch old matches I might have missed… and its a clusterf*#k.. some matches are there, but no dates (unless u click on the tab that gives all the info including final score)….

    sooo annoying
     
  18. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wrong thread, but right conclusion

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/espn-soccer-thread.2031926/

    p.s. That said, I'm not sure NBC, Paramount, or any of the other big sports streamers have any good way of watching content that's more than few months old, let alone years.
     
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  19. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Adding to that theme of trying to stream old content...

    Yesterday I went looking for recent Men In Blazers episodes and came up dry.

    As noted before, as of 1/1/22 NBC shifted their first-run MIB airings from now-defunct NBCSN to Peacock.

    I've never ever watched MIB in real time. My DVR auto-recorded them, and it was a total PIECE OF CAKE to find and watch them, literally WITHIN 5 SECONDS of turning on my TV.

    Now in our "new and improved" world of streaming, I spent way too many minutes doing the following, all with NO SUCCESS:

    1. Opened Peacock app, certain that the recent MIB shows would be there, since that's where they first aired... but nope... after hunting around, there is just one single show on Peacock... the first episode of this season... 4 months old.

    2. Opened NBC Sports app... after trying to navigate their less than swift browser UI for EPL content, I find only 2 MIB shows from this season... 2 months old. Then trying NBCSports.com website which has a search button was no better, maybe worse.

    So for me this is exactly what @the5timechamp was lamenting about ESPN+. In short, it's a TOTAL FAIL by the content providers as they rush to move content from traditional broadcast TV to their streaming platforms. While they charge us more (paying for both old & new platforms)

    I see no other explanation, other than that they're not trying hard enough, or worse they just don't care for their customers enough. That could very well come back to haunt them. In a capitalist system, that SHOULD come back to haunt them.

    p.s. It's not like they can use any sort of copyright restriction argument for the MIB example, which they produce and presumably own outright in perpetuity.
     
  20. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it's a matter of those watching live have to watch commercials while you can fast forward through them if you watch later, so they're trying to make EVERYTHING appointment viewing.
     
  21. Zamboni

    Zamboni New Member

    Brentford
    Canada
    Nov 18, 2021
  22. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2297 NorthBank, Jan 24, 2022
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2022
    So they are. For some reason when I did a search within Peacock yesterday that page only listed one show: S8E1. (I shoulda taken a screenshot) No idea why the list wasn't complete the first time.

    OK, so maybe that was just down to the vagaries of digital. But what if you wanted to watch anything before season 8? Why would NBC not provide anything even older on that same page? Is it just the laziness or lack of care that I speculated about in a prior post?
     
  23. SirFozzie

    SirFozzie Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 17, 2001
    Franklin, MA
    Wasn't sure of where to put this, but here's something that shows how much US and other markets will be crucial for the future: In the new rights package, overseas rights for the same period will be worth more than the domestic rights. Not by much (5.05 Billion to 5 Billion (all in English Pounds), but heck. A million here, a million there, sooner or later it adds up...

    https://theathletic.com/news/premie...ts-for-first-time-in-next-cycle/PCVIj5mN8OBk/
     
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  24. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When I stream a match on the Peacock app on Roku, it's always 20-25 seconds behind what I can get out of the Peacock website.

    I've always assumed this is just some extra buffering/latency that Roku adds in. Can anyone confirm? And if so, why???

    It's certainly annoying when you're watching a game live, and posting about it at the same time.
     
  25. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Because every year more and more stuff gets moved from cable to a streaming service, but the price of cable is not decreasing. Nor is the number of commercials that fill-up every channel.

    I'm about to cancel my cable. I'm too embarrassed to even indicate here how much I pay for Fios, but let's just say $4.17/month for Peacock looks like quite the deal in comparison. $5.83 for ESPN is even a better deal. And the King of all streaming deals - $4.99 for Paramount.

    Of course, cable is easier to use. One interface, quick channel changes, FF and RW live TV, watch things on tape delay, etc. Those things are all worth something and I'll miss that, but its not worth the price anymore. Even with something like the Olympics, 95% of the content is moved to streaming. So I'm stuck using a clunky streaming app either way.
     

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