Klinsmann Comments about State of US Soccer

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by Hoopscoach, Jun 27, 2010.

  1. Hoopscoach

    Hoopscoach Member

    Jun 25, 2008
    California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope they replay what Klinsmann just said during World Cup Live about the state of US Soccer. He was asked about if our expectations matched the talent of our players. He responded that it was something that US Soccer was going to have to look at that issue. Then he continued....

    "Looking at the game yesterday you had three really quality players that did not live up to their expectations, Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey and Tim Howard. They were not there. It was not there game last night and if they do not step up to the world stage then you cant expect Michael Bradley and the other ones to pull it all off. I think its really important that they lay out a philosophy for US Soccer and say where do we want to go. I mean hopefully by the end of the the US will get the WC 2022... and so you need to know how to develop the players. It is very difficult within the American culture to talk about that topic because you are the only country in the world that has the pyramid upside down. That means you pay for having your kid play soccer, because your goal is not that your kid becomes professional soccer player because your goal is that your kid gets a scholarship in high school or college. Which is completely opposite form the rest of the world...and it si a tough one because soccer is very similar to basketball you need it out of the lower class environment. Soccer worldwide is a lower environment sport. We all got up from moderate families and fought our way through. You need to keep this hunger throughout your life and I compare it to basketball because all these guys are coming form the inner cities so you need to find ways, whatever they may be to connect with the Hispanics, connect with everyone and get the kids that are really hungry. To get the kids on a technical level that are able to perform and what I mean by technical level is first touch. The first touch yesterday was not there and you cannot afford those in the WC."

    I think US Soccer is reaching a crossroads and some fundamental decisions are going to have to be made about the direction of US Soccer over the next 12 years (When we hopefully get the WC). We have seen a small movement in US Youth Soccer to begin developing a Latin American style of soccer as a style of US play. Now we will see how US Soccer attempts to further develop this beginning with the decisions at the MNT.

    Thoughts ???
     
  2. Mowntineer

    Mowntineer New Member

    Jun 6, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Is it possible that we will have the $$ to bring him in as our new manager? Or did the talks breaking down the first time mean that it wont ever happen?
     
  3. McGarnagle

    McGarnagle Member+

    Apr 29, 2010
    Club:
    FC Ingolstadt 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for posting this hoopscoach. I think he is right on the money with his comments.
     
  4. Otergod

    Otergod Member+

    Sep 20, 2007
    indianapolis
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    money was never the issue with USSF and Klinsmann, it was power
     
  5. seattle

    seattle New Member

    Dec 9, 2009

    Yes, give him the job.
     
  6. alexspepa

    alexspepa Member

    Jun 17, 2006
    Charlotte
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    everything he said is 100% true and spot on. I and many others have been saying it for years - there is something wrong with a sports culture that basically locks out a significant portion of the population because of the high cost involved in having your kids advance up though the ranks of youth soccer.
     
  7. Mowntineer

    Mowntineer New Member

    Jun 6, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Care to enlighten me real quick?

    I am assuming they wouldn't give him as much as he wanted....I wonder if this would still be the case?
     
  8. staudio

    staudio Member+

    Mar 7, 2008
    Marin
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought he didn't take the job, not because of the money, but because USA soccer would give hime the authority/control that he wanted....until there is a change of culture at the top, USA soccer won't change
     
  9. FrankCostanza

    FrankCostanza Member

    Jul 11, 2009
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was right on the money with that statement, especially with regards to first touch.
     
  10. Cluttered

    Cluttered Member

    Aug 13, 2008
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like Klinsmann...But I don't think he is saying anything that most people don't already know. A lot of people can say the right thing, but when you hire someone it's more about projecting whether you think that person have the drive and the ability to actually achieve the goals they are talking about setting.
     
  11. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Finally!!!! Somebody said it! Too bad the USSF won't do it...
     
  12. nancyb

    nancyb Member

    Jun 30, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Most people who follow soccer abroad know this. Most people in the trenches of youth soccer in the US do not know this. Parents of players do not know this.
     
  13. JeremyEritrea

    JeremyEritrea Member+

    Jun 29, 2006
    Takoma Park, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That was a fantastic segment, and Klinsi was right on the money about what's wrong with soccer in the USA.

    Lalas, Turico and McManahan were quite good too, but you could sense that Lalas didn't want to go after Gulati too strongly. Maybe he's hoping for a job with the fed.
     
  14. Hoopscoach

    Hoopscoach Member

    Jun 25, 2008
    California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They had the money part worked out, it came down to the direction of US Soccer and a disagreement of how to use the different tournaments. Copa was at the center of the debate. He saw it wasn't going to go the way he wanted so he moved on.
     
  15. jlasoon

    jlasoon Member

    Jul 25, 2005
    Orlando, FL
    Lalas did restrain himself, I was just waiting for him to explode. He was turning red.
     
  16. seattle

    seattle New Member

    Dec 9, 2009
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/412013-us-soccer-are-you-willing-to-change


    While everyone is focusing on getting rid of Bob Bradley, we are missing a much bigger picture. We could have had Jürgen Klinsmann as our manager four years ago. From what everyone generally believes, he would have taken the job had he been given the power to do what he needed to do to improve American soccer, and the United States Soccer Federation (and President Sunil Gulati) wouldn’t give it to him.
     
  17. TFC USA

    TFC USA New Member

    Jun 29, 2009
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    I want Klinsmann head coach, Maradona to be his batshit insane assistant manager.
     
  18. CbR

    CbR Member

    Nov 10, 2000
    Bergen County NJ
    Lalas makes no secret he's anti bradley...he is infact the guy who unjustly fired him from the metrostars position several years back. Lalas is a snake.

    what Klinnsman is talking about will take decades to change. Jose Mourinho can come down from the heavens and it still wont change.

    the solution is MLS youth academies. We're another cycle away from seeing any fruits from that tree.
     
  19. Gravy Sopper

    Gravy Sopper New Member

    Jun 13, 2006
    Birmingham, Ala.
    I really like Lalas, but if he didn't recognize Klinsmann's point, then he's too much of a homer to be a commentator at that level. What Klinsmann said is 100% true -- US soccer is getting wrong with talent development (and probably coaching, too).
     
  20. cosmosRIP

    cosmosRIP Member

    Jul 22, 2000
    Brooklyn NY
    The elephant in the room: no one asked Klinsi what everyone at that desk was wondering - if he was interested in the coaching job
     
  21. Libertine1962

    Libertine1962 Member

    May 29, 2010
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I feel Klinsmann's comments were right on the money. But what job is he looking for? Head coach of the USMNT or head of USSF? With no world class professional league in America I don't see it becoming a passion, a dream, for US kids to become so great that someday they might play for Liverpool, Barcelona, Bayern Munich or AC Milan. So yes it is a bottom upside down development program but it is so only because circumstances dictate it...
     
  22. djedi

    djedi New Member

    Apr 20, 2010
    Great segment, glad somebody posted it.

    I too have enjoyed Mcman during the coverage (anybody else crack up when he was making Tirico uncomfortable discussing betting on the U.S. game yesterday, some "flutter"??!).

    I also saw Lalas refraining, made me wonder exactly why. Surely he knows the truth as well as any of us. Wynalda talks about it all the time. Heck, we all do.

    So how do we, as fans, make it known to the USSF that we want changes to the system? Like now.

    Not knocking Bob, I respect him & his effort. Do I think he was perfect? Absolutely not. Am I still pi$$ed about the loss?. Damn right. But I won't insult the coach as I feel he did his best & achieved the level HE probably could have hoped (not to be confused with WE as a team).

    So honestly. We need changes at the top. How do we get them?
     
  23. Szico

    Szico New Member

    Feb 11, 2010
    Memphis, TN
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My thoughts exactly. He seemed to tense up a bit while that was being discussed, like he was hoping they wouldn't ask him. Then he seemed quite relieved when Tirico changed the topic before they got to him.

    Please, Gulati... make the deal.
     
  24. IIBlackbirDII

    IIBlackbirDII New Member

    Jun 26, 2010
    San Antonio TX USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Heard that as well. Good speech.
     
  25. TheBoss84

    TheBoss84 Member

    Jul 16, 2007
    Germany
    Agree, it will take time and I dont think sacking Bradley would be the right way to go. In the end, he is nothing more than scapegoat that formed a pretty solid US squad.
     

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