Isn't it usually about this point in an online shit-flinging contest that somebody accuses somebody of being a Nazi, a Fascist or some such?
Not sure. But apparently we've reached the point where people try to change the subject because they don't have answers for the facts presented.
Why would I want to change the subject when it is being pursued with such elegance, wit and genuine thoughtfulness? Sorry if I have left the impression that I wasn't appreciating your debating brilliance. By all means, carry on.
Why would you want to change the subject? I'm guessing it's because you were dying to dazzle us with your wit and humor. Don't let me get in the way of your one man comedy show.
Maybe because your post was dripping with disdain and sarcasm? Now if anyone actually wants to comment on the topic at hand...
Sure. I think the topic had something to do with calling people liars, right? Interesting value system you work with.
Yep, that was the topic of my post. Go sell your BS to someone who will buy it. Sorry for the detour folks. I won't be responding to the troll again.
Well to be honest so far we have found out that McLeod was never warned, but was warned more than once. And nobody on the US or Canadian side had NEVER seen the call made ever....even though LeBlanc and Tancredi played in a game where Solo was called for it. So there is some lying going on somewhere... Edit: Not to mention whomever I was discussing with yesterday that stated not a single Canadian ever said their was a pro-US bias in the way the game was called.
I had a feeling this was going to be mentioned somewhere in your bull sh*t tirade. When looking at the replay, this tackle was actually clean and the Canadian player touched the ball first. This leads me to two conclusions: Either you didn't see the replay considering it did look close initially or you did see it and you mentioned it anyways to make your argument look better in the hope that someone wouldn't call you out on it. If the latter is the case, I have called you out on it. The US also committed just as many dirty tackles. Did you see what happened to Desiree Scott? Again, the biggest problem is the indirect free-kick being awarded. It just seems strange it was awarded in that exact situation and that exact moment.
Well, sure, setting aside the time wasting that was happening in that exact situation and that exact moment. [I don't do smileys, but it might go well here.]
I did see the replay and it definitely looked like a blatant trip to me. It's not surprising that the ref who demonstrated an inability to call certain fouls all match was reluctant to call this one as well, especially considering she had just awarded the US a penalty. If you have a link for a video of the play, I'd be happy to take another look. I never said the US didn't commit any dirty tackles but the sentiment of this thread, and the people I was speaking of, have stated emphatically that the ref called a one-sided game and the Canadians were robbed. Absolute malarkey. Exactly.
O'Reilly got to the ball first, then Scott ran into her with her leg at an awkward angle. That Scott got hurt as a result is no indication of a dirty tackle.
the point is, no one from the states will admit the usa plays dirty football, even when fullbach mugs daniela. only colombian and mexican girls play nasty when they are behind. anyway, i'll be glad when pia is gone, might just like the team than.
There have been a lot of things articulated as categorical statements in this discussion that could not possibly all be true. I've read every post (and responded to a few of them along the way) and none of the statements I think are untrue really comes across as a lie. People have strong opinions, they lay them out without checking the record, they choose their words poorly and mistakes get made. As I have made clear elsewhere, I believe that claims of an anti-US conspiracy are baseless and the problem is a game that was refereed by somebody who was not up to the task for pretty much the entire contest. I bear her no ill will. I'm sure she feels pretty crappy about the whole thing. I also believe that when you arrive at the point in a discussion of this sort where people start accusing those they disagree with of lying, there is really no point to continuing the discussion. That would be why I made an oblique reference to Godwin's Law which, predictably I suppose, prompted even more unpleasantness. Anyway, the games are done and the medals awarded. The US Women's National Team are worthy champions. That makes this all pretty much beside the point.
That should have read: "I believe that claims of an anti-Canada conspiracy are baseless". For some reason the system wouldn't let me correct the original post.
This has probably already been recorded and discussed elsewhere here in the women's forum, but mention certainly belongs here as well ... http://www.wtop.com/514/3076363/Canada-star-Sinclair-banned-4-games-by-FIFA "Canadian women's soccer star Christine Sinclair received a four-game suspension from FIFA for her conduct following a dramatic semifinal loss to the United States at the London Olympics. The findings of a FIFA disciplinary committee panel were released on Friday by the Canadian Soccer Association, which said the discipline was for "displaying unsporting behavior towards match officials." Sinclair also was fined an undisclosed amount. ...."
I thought the fine was enough and the four games typical over kill from FIFA As to the game, it was just poorly refereed...talk of game fixing is silly. There r numerous chances to fix a game during play without resorting to something as creatively controversial as a rarely enforced rule that happens to lead to questionable hand ball. Ur making the ref out to be a criminal mastermind for plotting that. Further proof against a fix was the Morgan take down in the box a few minutes after. While the replay showed Kyle (I think) got the ball in certainly looked bad enough in live action to warrant the call, mistaken or not. History would have remembered is as a bad call not a Machivellian plot against Canada.
I don't need any proof to know she was biased FOR Canada. If she wasn't biased then some of the hockey players would have been off the pitch for an hour of the match. There is no way that all of those fouls go uncalled without bias.