Manchester United Goals and Assists Chart 2005/2006

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Dark Savante, Apr 18, 2006.

  1. Dark Savante

    Dark Savante Member

    Apr 24, 2002
    Become the Tea Pot!!
    Hey you statisticians!!


    Come, bless us with knoweldge :D Who are our top 10 scorers, assisters and all the rest of that jazz you know like the back of your hands? :D

    *points at Achtung, VR , Stud and L_U_F...

    Bless us all with your wisdom and interesting 'did you knows'

    :D
     
  2. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    ------Name--------GameSt-SB--Goals
    - Ruud van Nistelrooy---38---7---24
    - Wayne Rooney---43---4---19
    - Louis Saha---17---10---14
    - Cristiano Ronaldo---35---9---11
    - Kieran Richardson---21---12---5
    - Ryan Giggs---27---7---4
    - Giuseppe Rossi---5---5---4
    - Rio Ferdinand---47---3---3
    - Ji-Sung Park---25---17---3
    - Paul Scholes---25---1---3
    - Gabriel Heinze---4---2---2
    - John O'Shea ---43---1---2
    - Sylvain Ebanks-Blake---1---0---1
    - Darren Fletcher---36---5---1
    - Liam Miller---1---2---1
    - Mikael Silvestre---41---4--- 1
    - Alan Smith---23---10---1

    Assist
    1. Rooney-14
    2. Ryan Giggs-8
    3. Park Ji Sung-7
    4. Ronaldo-7
    5. Louis Saha-4
    6. Ruud Van. -4
    7. Fletcher-3
    8. Neville-3
    9. Silvestre-3

    If this isnt what your asking for, sorry!
     
  3. Dark Savante

    Dark Savante Member

    Apr 24, 2002
    Become the Tea Pot!!
    If those numbers are correct then we clearly have a problem and are heavily reliant on a handful of players scoring all our goals. That definitely needs to change next season. Didn't realise it was that bad actuallly!
     
  4. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's particularly a problem in the league, where Ruud and Rooney have scored 37 of our 68 goals, or 54%. Saha and Ronaldo have a handful each, then there is a precipitous dropoff which reiterates our need for scoring midfielders. Park, for all the good he's done for the team (3rd in assists, according to benni's numbers), just isn't a scorer. Scholes has been out, and Giggs from his recent CM position doesn't have the same eye for goal. Heck, Rio is tied for fifth on this team in league goals scored.
     
  5. MtP07

    MtP07 BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 3, 2005
    One of the most glaring differences from some of our late 90's/early 00's championship winning sides and todays team is a lack of midfield scoring threat. We've become far too dependant on one or two players to make it happen. Hopefully Fergie can get us a midfielder or two this summer who can contribute more in the scoring department.
     
  6. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thing is, on second thought, here's how it looked back in 1999-2000.

    Code:
    Premiership goals only 1999-2000
    
    Yorke      20
    Cole       19
    Solskjaer  12
    Scholes     9
    Beckham     6
    Giggs       6
    Keane       5
    Sheringham  5
    Butt        3
    Cruyff      3
    Irwin       3
    og          3
    Fortune     2
    Berg        1
    It's a bit more evenly distributed, but I'm guessing that the standard deviation (a way of measuring the evenness of the data spread, for those who slept through stats class) of at least the top half of the scorers can't be hugely different.

    Code:
    Premiership goals only 2005-06 (through April 18)
    
    van Nistelrooy 21
    Rooney         16
    Ronaldo         8
    Saha            6
    Giggs           3
    Ferdinand       3
    Park            2
    Scholes         2
    og              2
    Rossi           1
    Silvestre       1
    Fletcher        1
    Smith           1
    O'Shea          1
    I'll have to take a closer look tonight. Unless someone beats me to it.
     
  7. MtP07

    MtP07 BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 3, 2005
    What are our totals for just the Prem? I believe benni's stats were for all competitions.
     
  8. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
  9. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LOL... Rio has three shots on goal, all of them for goals. That's efficiency. :)
     
  10. Republic of Mancunia

    Aug 24, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    A liitle off topic Achtung but could you tell me how to do that "code" thingy that you've just done up there ^ so that posts stay nicely formatted?
     
  11. gazza

    gazza Member

    Dec 15, 2004
    Here you go Achtung.

    ----------99/00------------05/06
    Mean------6.9--------------9.5
    meadian----5----------------7
    mode-------3----------------3
    std dev----6.1--------------7.4

    Give me a bit of time I'll do a linear regression and predict next years totals.:D
     
  12. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Use "[ code ] info here [ /code ]" (without spaces next to the brackets). You still have to space the columns properly, which kind of takes a while, but its definitely easier to read.
     
  13. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Excellent. If you feel like it, you can do other seasons as well, I just chose 99-00 because that was our best team in the league.

    And I was going to wait till I got home and pop it into my old TI-82. :D
     
  14. StrikerCW

    StrikerCW Member

    Jul 10, 2001
    Perth, WA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hmm.. from class In know that std deviation is something along the lines of sum of mean-individual squared, divide by number of total-1 then square root. :rolleyes: I think... But what is the mode?
     
  15. gazza

    gazza Member

    Dec 15, 2004

    The mode is the number that occurs most often. The standard deviation is square root of the difference from the mean, squared, divided by number of samples.;)
     
  16. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, a stat here like mode or mean isn't that useful. Median is moderately useful. Mainly I wanted the std deviation to see how spread out our scorers are.

    Gfunk, are those stats for the entire list, or just the top half?
     
  17. StrikerCW

    StrikerCW Member

    Jul 10, 2001
    Perth, WA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thats what I said... :rolleyes:
     
  18. gazza

    gazza Member

    Dec 15, 2004
    They are from your post, I didn't look any up. I must have vapor locked on the one column so here it is again, updated.

    ----------99/00------------05/06
    Mean------6.9--------------4.9
    meadian----5----------------2
    mode-------3----------------1
    std dev----6.1--------------6.2

    This for the 14 scorers. I'm sort of distracted by Kate Beckinsale in Van Helsing at the moment.:eek:
     
  19. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for the updated one.

    I didn't realize that the standard deviations would be almost identical. So maybe we don't have as much of a scoring spread problem as it appears.

    The median and mean are lower though, so as it appears, we have a lot of guys scoring a few goals and a few guys scoring a lot, but the trend isn't that much worse than it has been in the past.
     
  20. Dark Savante

    Dark Savante Member

    Apr 24, 2002
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    Premiership goals only 2005-06 (through April 18)

    Ronaldo 8 wing
    Giggs 3 cm
    Park 2 wing
    Scholes 2 cm
    Fletcher 1 cm
    Smith 1 cm
    O'Shea 1 cm

    Premiership goals only 1999-2000
    Scholes 9 cm
    Beckham 6 wing
    Giggs 6 wing
    Keane 5 cm
    Butt 3 cm
    Cruyff 3 wing
    Fortune 2 wing



    Next is to find out how many of those were crucial or match deciding goals... 17goals from CM in 99 down to 8 in 05/06... 17goals from the wings in 99 down to 10. Also notice the position distribution of the players :eek:
     
  21. ManUtd R16

    ManUtd R16 New Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Berkeley, CA
    Ruud sets the curve again!
     
  22. bestbecks

    bestbecks Member

    Jan 12, 2006
    Ottawa, ON
    Screw getting a defensive mid, it's an offensive mid we need. I say lets highjack Ballack from Chelski :D.

    Seriously though, Ruud is absolutley vital to our team, without a doubt.
     
  23. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    HOLY ********ING MATH CLASS BATMAN!!! ITS A BUNCH OF MATH NERDS!

    Had to get that off my chest.

    I think you'll find that w/ Scholes having missed much of the season and Park adjusting to the league and Ronaldo having such a shite first half those numbers will improve next year. I'm particularly excited to see what if any impact David Jones and Giusseppe Rossi will have next season.

    Also, the one trick pony shit doesn't cut it any more as the standard Ronaldo hater crap. He's clearly got 2 tricks. Scoring and Creating :D you have to tip your hat to the lad for being 4th in both categories. Its not huge, and I'll predict that he can better those numbers but I think in terms of out put in relation to others, this is about where he should be for this stage of his career.

    I mean, at this stage, statistically only Rooney, Ruud and maybe Saha could be said to be having a greater impact on this team scoring.

    It would be nice if we could dig up the prediction threads from a while back where we guessed how many goals from the different players.
     

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