after looking at this gallery you will make up your mind, this is a must see gallery! http://www.goal.com/es/G/index.shtml the site is in spanish. Go to the link, go down and click on the link "Roy Keane... ¿una mala bestia? 13 Agosto" its the 13th link below the add in the middle of the page that says "goal.com gallery search" When the photo gallery loads click on "foto siguiente" (next photo) to see the next photo, "foto anterior" (previous photo)" to see previous photo
nah...just the oldest old school player out there, totally unconcerned with the political/celebrity/commercial aspect of the game, just wants to thug it up Ire style.
Equal parts nutty, composed, calculating, complex (mentally), straightforward (on the pitch). There are many Roy Keanes. Usually working in opposition to each other at any given time. That's why the blow-up on Saipan didn't come as a complete shock to this ROI fan.
First off, `Boro blows. Second, a great Keano moment was captured last season. During pre-game warmups against Liverpool the television cameras flashed to Keane, who was totally abusing a United press aide who asked him to come over for a photo with Owen, two other players, and a serviceman in uniform. Everyone else was posed and ready when Keane walked up, grinned for one shot, and then stormed off. I only hope he murmured #$#$ off as he left. I don't care if my favorite athletes are sociable or role models. I respect Keane only for his playing ability. I will never meet him, nor would I want to, so it doesn't matter what class of nut he is in private or anywhere else but on the field for United and, hopefully, for Ireland.
Oh yeah, he's nuts. That's also what makes him indispensible to United and my favorite player. How many times, late in a game, have you seen him cover 80 yards of a field, box to box, when he's already run more than anyone else out there for the entire match? That requires more than top fitness, he's just willing to run through any and every barrier of pain and exhaustion known to man, to simply block it all out. He's willing to put everything aside to win. Crazy? Yes. Effective? Usually. I have this image of him sitting in that oxygen tent 4 hours a day last spring as treatment for his torn hamstring in an attempt to get back for the end of CL (damn) and the World Cup (uh oh), just staring at the wall, completely focused, foaming at the mouth like a maniac. But it worked, and he was back 2 weeks before anyone thought he would be.
He isn't really psycho, just a thug. Actually, he's a stupid thug, because no one with any brains would admit to trying to hurt an opponent like he tried to hurt Haaland.
Pure and simple, he's a child. His world view is simply uncluttered by any adult notions of behaviour, personal conduct, comportment, loyalty, obligation, or the need to fit into a group. As ever, blame the parent. Keane is exactly what Sir Alex has brought him up to be. He's not a psycho, nor is he a genius. He is a very, very good footballer and a very, very stunted individual, the latter fact perhaps contributing in some measure to the reality of the former. And thus, in some ways, Keane represents both the footballer we would all like to have on our own team, as well as the embodiment of almost everything that is wrong with the professional player and the game today. Keane is, more than anything else, a tragedy waiting to happen not because of what he has done or because of what he might end up doing, but because he has never learned the self control and basic human skills necessary for an adult to manage his own destiny in the world. Once greatness has passed (as it will), the scapheap beckons.
Is Keane the first professional footballer to deliberately commit a foul? Ever seen a centre back go through on a striker early in a match to let him know he's around? Never seen a retaliatory foul from a player before? Bad behaviour? Yes! But hardly unique. Keane's error was to put it into a book.
Oh, so you don't think players are influenced by and are a reflection of their managers attitudes, then? You think players do what they will, and managers just stand on the sidelines having very little to do with the game? You don't believe that a manager sets the tone regarding tactics, discipline, and behaviour, and that the players then follow it? You don't think the fact that Ferguson has, through making excuses and encouraging many of Keane's most extreme tendencies, done him no favours and hasn't contributed to the fact that the player is largely out of control? It's not armchair psychobabble at all. The fact is, Keane IS like a child and Ferguson is like the parent who laughs at his kids worst tendencies because they suit his own ends, whilst making no attempt to help the child develop personally. Look, I'll be the first to agree that individuals have to take responsibility for their own actions and, at the end of the day, Roy Keane is old enough to make decisions for himself. But the fact remains that Ferguson has been very much a contributing factor to the mess in which Roy presently finds himself and it's instructive to note that when it all bang in the Ireland camp over the summer, Alex was the first person Roy called for advice. The advice Ferguson seems to consistently give Keane is "be as self destructive as you want, as long as it benefits me and Manchester United." Good advice? No. It clearly works from the point of view of making Fergies team successful but it doesn't make him much of a man manager, and it shows a questionable sort of concern for the welfare of his players. I may have phrased my original point rather provocatively, even pretentiously if you want, but the point very much still stands.
1. Though we have to surmise intent, there is a difference between a relatiatory foul and "intent to injure". Thus, there is a difference between clattering someone to let them know that you're around, and attempting to hurt someone. I am not passing judgement on the incident itself here. Merely pointing out that there is a difference. 2. It probably was close to unique, not because of the foul itself but because of the clear degree of malice involved. We can make this claim now in particular because Keane has come out and validated the observation. Aggression is common. Malice is, thankfully, reasonably rare. 3. Agree. Keane's error was to put it in a book. Interesting, however, is that anyone who feels empowered enough to tell the entire population that they have committed a serious offence and to do so in a manner which effectively says "I am bigger than the game", is to wonder what the world view of that particular individual is. The clue to Roy Keane's personality is not so much what he did, but the way he has handled the admission of his guilt. He is not so much a thug as an unreconstituted thug, and that sort of personality, sooner or later, is likely to come seriously a cropper.
There are many people who would regard Keane as 'enlightened' because "his world view is simply uncluttered by any adult notions of behaviour, conduct, comportment, loyalty, obligation, or the need to fit into a group". I personally admire people who don't feel the need to live by everybody else's rules of behaviour - it is refreshing and keeps the world a bit more interesting. Football would be incredibly dull if all we ever got to see on TV were interviews with 'model professionals' droning on about how its a 'game of two halves' etc. Snore. Whilst I do not particularly admire Keane for his assault on Haaland, it is naive for people to suggest that this does not happen pretty regularly in football.
I can't believe this thread has gone to two pages without anyone using the words "alcohol problem". It's not like it's a secret.
all i can say about keane is this. there are thousands of irish kids out there would give their left nut to represent their country in the world cup. to me, there is no higher honor then wearing your country's crest and keane has shown it means nothing to him. all he does and bitch and moan about the manager and the facilities and all that. what is he expecting man united type of facilities? a manager who puts roy ahead of the rest of the team? he is a great footballer, but in my opinion he's a complete tosser who will hopefully continue to act like a tvvat and get sent off like usual.