Holland-Scotland

Discussion in 'The Netherlands' started by windycity, Oct 13, 2003.

  1. windycity

    windycity Member

    Oct 19, 2001
    Where do you think
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Great draw for the Oranje (better than what could have been) but it won't easy. The added bonus is that the 2nd leg is in Holland. I predict 0-0 in the 1st leg and then 2-0 for Holland in the 2nd.

    If Holland can't beat Scotland, the Oranje don't deserve to go to Euro 2004.
     
  2. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    i dont think it will be that close, scotland sucks
     
  3. Germanshepherd

    Germanshepherd New Member

    May 19, 2003
    Rostock, Deutschland
    Scotland has McBerti!

    That counts a lot.
     
  4. windycity

    windycity Member

    Oct 19, 2001
    Where do you think
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Bluedaddy

    The last 5 results are:

    1992 Euro: Holland 1-0 Scotland

    1994 Friendly (in Scotland): Scotland 0-1 Holland

    1994 Friendly (in Holland): Holland 0-0 Scotland

    1996 Euro: Holland 0-0 Scotland

    2000 Friendly (In Holland): Holland 0-0 Scotland

    So I don't think it will be easy but I expect Holland to win. I imagine what will happen is that the Oranje will control the games for long stretches but have trouble scoring. As long as they don't get frustrated, the should be able to win it.

    Course my preference would be 5-0 wins for Holland in both games.
     
  5. Forza AZ

    Forza AZ New Member

    Jun 26, 2003
    Alkmaar
    Re: Bluedaddy

    I've to correct you. The 2nd friendly in 1994 was 3-1 for the Netherlands.
     
  6. sonicdream

    sonicdream Member

    Sep 27, 2002
    West of Suez canal
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    And it won't be easy. Dickie will make it interesting for the entire 180 minutes of football.

    Windycity is right by saying that most possession will be by NL but have difficulty scoring.

    If we lose 1-0 in Glasgow we could be screwed.
     
  7. Parkhead_Faithful

    Parkhead_Faithful New Member

    Dec 19, 2001
    Glasgow,Scotland
    McBerti will probably get some advice from Martin O'neill about spanking the little genital ;)

    all the best boys should be a good couple of matches if nothing else.
     
  8. windycity

    windycity Member

    Oct 19, 2001
    Where do you think
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Forza AZ

    I took the scores from the FootballNL site. So blame them not me!! ;-P
     
  9. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    scotland was better in the '90's - when the chips were down, they scraped into the playoff by beating lithuania 1-0... LITHUANIA



    scotland sucks
     
  10. Holyjoe

    Holyjoe Member

    Jul 15, 2003
    ROK/SCO
    bluedaddy... if Holland were so good they wouldn't be in the play-offs, would they?
     
  11. Parkhead_Faithful

    Parkhead_Faithful New Member

    Dec 19, 2001
    Glasgow,Scotland
    Did you see the match?
    it was nervy and we didnt play particularly well until we got the goal, lithuania arent as bad as youre making out either.
    We actually got into the playoffs by beating iceland home and away id argue.
     
  12. Parkhead_Faithful

    Parkhead_Faithful New Member

    Dec 19, 2001
    Glasgow,Scotland

    not to mention missing 4-5 regulars.
     
  13. windycity

    windycity Member

    Oct 19, 2001
    Where do you think
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    On paper, the Oranje are certainly better. But on paper Holland is better than Ireland too and we saw what happened in WC 2002 qualifying (mind you, I think Ireland is somewhat better than Scotland). The problem is that games are not played on paper. Holland should go through but it won't be easy.

    If the Oranje can keep their cool and not get frustrated (getting an early goal at Hampden would be ideal) in not scoring, then the Oranje should eventually score and get through.
     
  14. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    that's what happens when davids gets a red 15 minutes into the big match with the czechs - i suppose spain and turkey aren't any good either
     
  15. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    no i didn't, i was at the germany-iceland match - i did see other qualifiers however and this scotland team does not even seem the sum of its parts, which ain't a whole lot to begin with - the 90's scotland teams had some fire in 'em and often played way above their heads

    oh and lithuania are dreadful, give me a break!

    good point on the iceland wins though
     
  16. windycity

    windycity Member

    Oct 19, 2001
    Where do you think
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Televised in the US?

    Hopefully the matches will be televised in the US via Satellite since Scotland is playing. I coudn't see any of the Oranje's qualifying matches (very glad I didn't see the Prague disaster).
     
  17. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Re: Televised in the US?

    1-i'd say you had a good shot at that, setanta maybe?

    2-actually HOLLAND were the better side for much of the night and always looked like getting the equalizer - the disaster was edgar getting two yellows in a quarter hour (though one was highly questionable) and giving the opening PK - baros added the insurance very late in stoppage with van der sar up in the czech area for a CK
     
  18. windycity

    windycity Member

    Oct 19, 2001
    Where do you think
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Blue

    Yeah Sentata will hopefully show it. I would have gone mental if I'd seen the Prague game, especially after Edgar was shown the door. It was a disaster in the sense that everything that could go wrong in the first 30 minutes did. Watching the Oranje trying hard to get the equalizer would have killed me.
     
  19. Parkhead_Faithful

    Parkhead_Faithful New Member

    Dec 19, 2001
    Glasgow,Scotland
    Having seen them play us twice and witnessed them draw in germany id disagree,they beat us by a dodgy penalty over there but they were cool on the ball and attempted to play good passing football, not a great side but considering who they are definately not as bad as youre making them out to be.
     
  20. windycity

    windycity Member

    Oct 19, 2001
    Where do you think
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Other than the real minnows like Andorra, San Marino etc., I don't think ayone in Europe is truly dreadful anymore.
     
  21. Parkhead_Faithful

    Parkhead_Faithful New Member

    Dec 19, 2001
    Glasgow,Scotland
    Very true, especially the eastern bloc countries.
     
  22. Harry Ottis Guff

    Harry Ottis Guff BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 2, 2003
    Im gonna slap you!
    Scotland arent far man, they are pretty bad!
     
  23. sonicdream

    sonicdream Member

    Sep 27, 2002
    West of Suez canal
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    But we're talking about the Dutch here, and under the Dick regime, things can and will get tight.
     
  24. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Doesn’t matter who’s @ the helm, qualifying is always a sticky proposition for the Oranje.
     
  25. Holyjoe

    Holyjoe Member

    Jul 15, 2003
    ROK/SCO
    Ah the last line of defence if you've got no comebacks, complaining about refereeing decisions.

    Face it, Holland are not that great.

    You didn't qualify for the 2002 World Cup, and you're in the 2004 European Championship play-offs.

    Wait a minute... that's exactly the same as Scotland's record too!

    Looks like we "suck" just as bad as each other, then?
     

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