Most Goals Scored by an Italian in a European League Other than Serie A?

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  1. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
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    Here's a thread for those of you with a talent for
    researching and a love of stats (stand up, SueB):
    let's determine which Italian player scored the most
    goals in a European league other than Serie A.

    Now if we were to include Serie A, players like Riva
    and Meazza, who scored goals for fun, would be in
    our reckoning. But the list of players we come up
    with should focus on goal-scorers like Zola (EPL),
    Vieri (La Liga), or Ravanelli (EPL). Perhaps, rather
    than just settling on one name, we could determine
    the five best given the above criteria?

    Let the stats-finding begin. :D
     
  2. Cassano

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    Jul 16, 2004
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    Off the top of my head, Vieri scored 24 goals in 24 games for Atletico Madrid. Now I'll go research.
     
  3. ChaChaFut

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    Jun 30, 2005
  4. ChaChaFut

    ChaChaFut Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Code:
    Gianfranco Zola		59
    Fabrizio Ravanelli	54
    Marco Simone		50
    Giuseppe Galderisi	44
    Paolo Di Canio		36
    Benito Carbone		29
    Christian Vieri		24
    Based on that page, and after a few updates, this is what I come up with. It might need corrections and other updates.
     
  5. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
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    The highest for Gianfranco Zola at Chelsea was 14 goals.

    Marco Simone scored 21 goals for Monaco in their championship winning 1999/2000 season.
     
  6. ChaChaFut

    ChaChaFut Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Edit: OOps I included some non-european leagues. I will revise it
     
  7. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
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    Oops, I was going by single-season stats.
     
  8. Sempre

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    What I had in mind was single season stats.
     
  9. Sempre

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    Thanks ChaChaFut and Cassano for the good work.

    From what I've gathered so far, Ravanelli wins this
    thread with 31 goals in 48 appearances for Boro in
    the 1996-1997 season.

    I'll continue to look around though.
     
  10. ChaChaFut

    ChaChaFut Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Oops again. You didn't say that! :)
     
  11. ChaChaFut

    ChaChaFut Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Does that include other competitions or just the Premier League?
     
  12. Cassano

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    Jul 16, 2004
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    Well then it looks like: (Cups not Included. Only goals in League Play)

    1) Christian Vieri- 1997/98 24 goals
    2) Marco Simone- 1999/2000 21 goals
    3) Paolo Di Canio- 1999/2000 16 goals
    3) Fabrizio Ravanelli- 1996/1997 16 goals
    4) Gianfranco Zola- 2002/2003 14 goals
    5) Francesco Baiano- 1997/1998 12 goals
     
  13. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
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    But I think that 31 goals includes cups also. If you go by just EPL stats, see list above with Ravanelli.
     
  14. ChaChaFut

    ChaChaFut Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Actually Zola scored 14 in 2002-2003.
     
  15. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
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    Fixed.
     
  16. Sempre

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    Do you have the breakdown on Ravanelli's goals? 15 in cup
    competition is some feat.
     
  17. Cassano

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    Jul 16, 2004
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    Well, divide that by two, since in England you have the Carling Cup and the FA Cup, so it might be 8 in one competition and 7 in another.
     
  18. Cassano

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  19. ChaChaFut

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    Jun 30, 2005
    Revised top 10 (RSSSF shows Marco Negri with 32 @ Glasgow Rangers. Also added other scorers since Cassano had it down to a scorer of 12).

    1) Marco Negri - 1997/1998 32 goals
    2) Christian Vieri - 1997/98 24 goals
    3) Marco Simone - 1999/2000 21 goals
    4) Fabrizio Ravanelli - 1996/1997 16 goals
    4) Paolo Di Canio - 1999/2000 16 goals
    6) Gianfranco Zola - 2002/2003 14 goals
    7) Marco Simone - 1997/1998 13 goals
    7) Fabrizio Ravanelli - 1998/1999 13 goals
    9) Paolo Di Canio - 1996/1997 12 goals
    9) Francesco Baiano- 1997/1998 12 goals
    9) Paolo Di Canio - 1997/1998 12 goals
     
  20. Cassano

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    Jul 16, 2004
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    Hmm...Never even heard of him...
     
  21. Sempre

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    Mar 4, 2005
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    Nice work, ChaCha. I will rep you when the machine allows
    me to.

    What, by the way, were you going to say about Chinaglia?
     
  22. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
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    Well, if you would count non-European leagues, Chinaglia would win hands down. He scored 192 goals in 213 games.
     
  23. ChaChaFut

    ChaChaFut Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    I heard of him, but never heard he had such a season. Not in the best league, tough.
     
  24. ChaChaFut

    ChaChaFut Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Yeah. I got a little carried away... then I realized Sempre said 'European leagues'
     
  25. ChaChaFut

    ChaChaFut Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Thanks, but it was really between the 3 of us.
     

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