http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=D&xml=/sport/2003/10/25/sfntay25.xml Hey, I know there's a (long running) Alpay thread already here, but I thought this article was more than interesting enough and different in tone to deserve it's own thread. I found it a fascinating insight into what it's like managing a problem player like Alpay and how a club operates. Credit the turnipped one for writing it and making some great points.