Sorry, I don't visit the rivalries forum so I have no idea what you are talking about. I have every right to call that loser with a fake English accent who turned his back on Canada Whoregreaves. Its a common nickname given to him by Canadian soccer fans. If he and his pathetic supporter's don't like it, they simply have to move on and live with it. If gloryhunterboy74 didn't bring this issue up in the first place I wouldn't even have used his name over and over again. Its not my fault if he won't let this 'pointless' issue die. I guess using your logic we shouldn't make fun of Landon Donovan either, right?
Not to belabour it as I'm sick of hearing about this too - and yes Topper does use the word excessively in Rivalries. I was tryign to say this isn't intersting - just moronic tit-for-tat we've been over a million times. <sigh>
LOL. I've been posting on the V's forums since 1999. Do you think I might be a little tired of the Whoregreaves situation? The only thing that makes me more tired of it is the continued use of misinformation by his supporters. At least if they didn't lie about what happened and admitted his motivations were moslty about opportunism and had little to do with national pride (which is what International soccer should be about) I could live with it (maybe). This was suppose to be a thread about Canadian players. I tried to keep it on topic, but if one poster is going to call me stupid and fat I'm going to respond. I'm sorry, but that's my nature. I know I should ignore idiots but its hard to do on the internet. I guess the easier solution would be to add 'gloryhunterboy74' to my ignore list so he can join Roch Voisine's #1 fan. But I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now. Maybe eventually he will say something that is actually factual and makes sense....
You're right. You SHOULD ignore crap like that. And folks, please get back on topic, or this thread goes bye-bye.
Owen is 27 and moved to Bayern when he was 16, so in fact he's actually spent most of his life in Canada. He may have been cut from the '97 U17 team, but 2 years he was asked to take part in the '99 U20's and refused. 2 other 81's were cut from that U17 team - Mike Klukowski and Julian DeGuzman - and they're currently prominent members of the Canadian NT. Owen took the easy way out.
And the second most in Germany.... I still can't figure out why he picked England. If he waited awhile he could have chose Germany. Hell, he could have chose to play for the Welsh if he wanted too. Just for the sake of the topic: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/story/2008/08/07/ali-gerba.html so no Gerba...
This is club football, not international football. It's always nice to have some of our own playing for us, but the focus should be on building the best team possible.
when your Canadian i can see why you would disrespect a player who snubs his birthplace and plays for England and i would do the same. but the rules of international representation are down to where your grandparents, parents or yourself are born. therefore playing for the birthplace of your forefathers would also be a proud moment for him, so maybe you should just bid hargreaves good riddence and stop calling him names. and as have explained the west ham situation to you before ,which you couldn't reply to, can i ask you a question........do you think loaning a player from a third party instead of a club merits the same punishment as being a club involved (even in a small way) in illegally arranging which refs get which game? i would say one was more open to cheating than the other wouldn't you?
sorry, nothing against you just have an inclination to to stick up for my old lady here and clear up some misconceptions. if you followed the case and are familiar with the rules, arranging with the referee designator who will officiate which match is not match fixing as we know it punishable by an article 6 violation -- relegation + (-30pts deduction). smoozing (though no evidence was ever presented) the designator is an article 1 offence which holds a 3-5 point deduction. very similar to what giacinto facchetti (that lying kunt) did with pairetto in CL for inter which went completely under the radar thanks to la gazzetta del inter and corriere del inter (both publications owned by moratti) who were essentially the main protagonists in calciopoli or telecompoli, aside from guido rossi and tronchetti provera of course.
We all loved Ben Johnson for a few minutes, as a great Canadian, and then, he was a bum from Jamaica.....this argument is stupid.....if a Canadian player is available, and good enough he will sign with TFC, or elsewhere....there should be no preferential treatment given or expected....we just want good players here, and unfortunately, have none.
I haven't gone back thru all of the pages of this thread but I do think I need to respond to this. The rules of MLS ensure that TFC should give preferential treatment to Canadians. They are the only players that we can consider domestics. Yes there are interim rules to help the club get established but those come off at some point and the long term strength/success of this club will be determined by its ability to recruit/develop/sign Canadian talent. My only thought on the Heargrave thing is that if he, like Ben Johnson, had picked between the country he was born in and the one he had moved to (like JDG2 as well) there would be a lot less controversy....but picking a 3rd country and then making up a bunch of excuses to support that choice...that is what, I think, upsets a lot of people....everyone should, however, just move on.....just as he was not likely to win a world cup playing for Canada, he is also not likely to be part of the next English team to win the world cup.