Hooligan Movies and Documentaries

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  1. FC Uptown

    FC Uptown New Member

    Feb 3, 2006
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    #1 FC Uptown, Mar 4, 2006
    I am a new fan and fascinated with many aspects of soccer/football and was wondering if anyone has seen and could give feedback on:

    Green Street Hooligans (2005) - Hollywood movie starring Elijah Wood.

    The Firm (1988) - Independent British movie starring a young Gary Oldman.

    "Hooligan" - The controversial Thames TV documentary 'Hooligan', brought the problem of football hooliganism to the forefront of the nation's conscience, follows the notorious Inter City Firm, "supporters" of West Ham United. Battling rival soccer fans up and down the country, they often reduced city centres to little more than looted shops and burnt out cars, and have left victims scarred from the effects of their weapon of choice - the Stanley knife. The perpetrators then melt away, back on the next Inter City train that takes them back to the east end of London.

    Hooligans and Thugs; Soccer's Most Violent Fan Fights - Documentary

    The Football Factory - Documentary

    Soul Crew: The Inside Story of Britain's Most Notorious Hooligan Gang -Documentary
     
  2. HSEUPASSION

    HSEUPASSION New Member

    Apr 16, 2005
    Duck, NC
    #2 HSEUPASSION, Mar 4, 2006
    The Football Factory is a documentry?
     
  3. leg_breaker

    leg_breaker Member

    Dec 23, 2005
    #3 leg_breaker, Mar 4, 2006
    ID: good
    the firm: good
    football factory: shit
    green street: shit
    hooligans: good
     
  4. FC Uptown

    FC Uptown New Member

    Feb 3, 2006
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    #4 FC Uptown, Mar 4, 2006
    I guess it is a movie
     
  5. TxFan

    TxFan Member

    Sep 6, 2001
    #5 TxFan, Mar 4, 2006
    the football factory is based on a novel by john king...

    why are americans so obsessed with hooligan culture?
     
  6. FC Uptown

    FC Uptown New Member

    Feb 3, 2006
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    #6 FC Uptown, Mar 4, 2006
    Why aren't white guys allowed to be interested in gangs too? Come on!
     
  7. helmzgk

    helmzgk New Member

    Jun 14, 2002
    california
    #7 helmzgk, Mar 4, 2006
    I thought they fear hooligan culture, but I think they secretly want to relive the days when they were tearing down goalposts, turning over cars, starting riots, or throwing beer bottles at refs in college.
     
  8. FC Uptown

    FC Uptown New Member

    Feb 3, 2006
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    #8 FC Uptown, Mar 4, 2006
    "White Rage"
    It's real man.
     
  9. THOMA GOL

    THOMA GOL BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 16, 1999
    Frontier
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #9 THOMA GOL, Mar 4, 2006
    Why are Germans, obsessed with David Hasselhoff? Or why were banners made popular at stadia in Latin American nations? Maybe it has to do with the cross-culture of soccer culture (choreography) between Latin America and say, Italian Ultras from the 70's. So even though us Yanks may not want to emulate hool culture outright, it is something that some people (especially us those that enjoy sociology/psychology/international studies :D ) find interesting. Besides, take a look at American programming and notice the amount of programs dealing with crashes, police chases, lovers cheating, humor at the expense of others. The boom, bang, and noise is something that American culture tends to draw towards. I just saw a chick in the movie The Devil's Rejects get TOOK by a 18 wheel semi-truck. It was horrid, but worth a rewind in a sick way. Hooligan flicks are a small notch in the sub-culture that is, the American soccer fan I guess.
     
  10. TxFan

    TxFan Member

    Sep 6, 2001
    #10 TxFan, Mar 6, 2006
    white guys do have gangs. ever heard of skinheads?
     
  11. AEK

    AEK Member

    Apr 7, 2000
    Silver Spring, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #11 AEK, Mar 6, 2006
    I saw Green Street Hooligans and I thought it was ok. It didnt make me want to run out and start up a firm so I could go take on the top boy from the next street or anything like that though:)

    I also recently read 'How Soccer Explains the world' and it had a good section on Hooliganism.
     
  12. TxFan

    TxFan Member

    Sep 6, 2001
    #12 TxFan, Mar 6, 2006
    you should check out "among the thugs" by bill buford. its quite good.
     
  13. BBBulldog

    BBBulldog Moderator
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    Jun 25, 2004
    Dinamo Zagreb
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    #13 BBBulldog, Mar 6, 2006
    what he said, except I thought FF was ok from artistic point of view :D
     
  14. FC Uptown

    FC Uptown New Member

    Feb 3, 2006
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    #14 FC Uptown, Mar 6, 2006
    I did read this several years ago - very entertaining.
    Trying to find where I can get "Hooligans" a very serious Thames TV documentary from many years ago.
     
  15. alwaysbeanengland

    alwaysbeanengland New Member

    Mar 3, 2006
    #15 alwaysbeanengland, Mar 7, 2006
    I thought that Green Street was a pile of shite, just something about it that I didnt like, think it was the mockney accents.... ID is alright. Shadwell Army! The Firm was quite good too.

    The message in the FF is a bit misguided I think, I mean the moral of the story is that its alright to be a hooligan but don't go ripping off rock dealers or you will get done in. but I reckon its the most enjoyable film of the lot.

    If you do a bit of searching on the web, you can get some proper vicious stuff recorded from real rucks and that.
     
  16. alwaysbeanengland

    alwaysbeanengland New Member

    Mar 3, 2006
    #16 alwaysbeanengland, Mar 7, 2006
    I got Hooligans from HMV sometime ago, sure I saw it in there recently - try www.hmv.co.uk
     
  17. TxFan

    TxFan Member

    Sep 6, 2001
    #17 TxFan, Mar 7, 2006
    You know, there were are a series of books out about 1970s hooliganism. i can't remember who wrote them though... i think someone named douglas or brimford... one of the title's was "capital punishment" and focused on london firms. the books weren't particularly well written or anything, but they were entertaining...
     
  18. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    #18 RichardL, Mar 7, 2006
    ...so was the wizard of oz, and it was truer to life as well.
     
  19. FC Uptown

    FC Uptown New Member

    Feb 3, 2006
    H-town
    #19 FC Uptown, Mar 7, 2006
  20. TxFan

    TxFan Member

    Sep 6, 2001
    #20 TxFan, Mar 8, 2006
    True true. some of the incidents seemed a a little exaggerated... ;)
     
  21. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    #21 RichardL, Mar 8, 2006
    I know. No way am I buying that "click your heels three times" ending.
     
  22. TxFan

    TxFan Member

    Sep 6, 2001
    #22 TxFan, Mar 8, 2006
    Ha! :)
     
  23. VOwithwater

    VOwithwater New Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    #23 VOwithwater, Mar 10, 2006
    Not a soccer movie but a fun street gang "Young Savages"
     
  24. VOwithwater

    VOwithwater New Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    #24 VOwithwater, Mar 10, 2006
    ''I am a white guy and always been interested in gangs and then crews, but soccer more.
     
  25. VOwithwater

    VOwithwater New Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    #25 VOwithwater, Mar 10, 2006
    Ever heard of the Fordam Baldies from the Bronx.
     
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