News: Earnie Stewart Resigns

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  1. ChambersWI

    ChambersWI Member+

    Nov 10, 2010
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    AC Milan
    https://sports.yahoo.com/us-soccer-sporting-director-job-description-new-211010000.html

    They announced the Sporting Director job will now solely focus on the sporting side and a new position is being created to deal with the other aspects Stewart dealt with.

    Based on listening to the Athletic Soccer Podcast, Paul Tenorfio basically said he got the impression the responsibilities were so much that it turned candidates off, but also sounds like they're going more in line with other federations now
     
  2. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

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    May 12, 2019
    This seems like a no-brainer.
     
  3. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Parlow-Cone and Batson had wanted just one soccer administrator on the men's side of the game to the two they have on the women's side, and now it seems that they've relented. Stewart was the sort of person that we just can't replace with any one guy that we're likely to get.
     
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  4. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
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    Good thing because then the men would have striked for equal rights and held out for a new contract. :D
     
  5. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
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    Manchester United FC
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    Do they have two administrators on the women's side? I thought it was just Kate Markgraf. Whereas we had both Stewart and McBride on the men's side. And Stewart also oversaw the women's team, but he was clearly significantly more hands on with the men's team.

    I guess the part that doesn't make sense to me is that despite the reduced responsibilities, the new sporting director will still be in charge of all 27 national teams under the USSF's purview. And will decide later themselves as to the need for a GM.

    It would make more sense to have one GM on the men's side, one on the women's side, someone else responsible for the other 25 national teams we field, and another person doing the referee and coaching education type stuff.
     
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  6. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    I misspoke a bit. The women have their own GM under the sporting director (obviously currently vacant), and the men originally weren't going to have one under the new re-structuring, according to Parlow-Cone and CEO Batson.
     
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  7. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
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    Not sure exactly how they should do it but I think at least all of the men's should be under one person and vice versa the women. I kind of like the idea of both sides having a similar philosophy but since they'd never play on the other's team it isn't necessary it would just be cool to have a national style. I think all of the best soccer nations do.
     
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  8. gogorath

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    Is there really enough for a GM's job if they aren't responsible for youth teams?

    I would think we'd have a Men's and Women's GMs responsible for the senior and youth teams on their respective side. You could either give the extended teams (para, beach, etc) to one of them or to the third person, who would do coaching and refereeing and youth league development.
     
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  9. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
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    I would make the GM responsible for the respective youth teams also. I just meant that the extended teams should have their own dedicated person.
     
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  10. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

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    I suspect we are having trouble with your meaning of extended. Do you mean youth teams of girls and boys or Futsal, beach etc?
     
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  11. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

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    So I think the respective youth teams should be run by the respective men's and women's GMs.

    But by extended teams I mean futsal, beach, etc. There's no reason why the person who oversees the USMNT and related youth teams. should be the person overseeing those teams as well.
     
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  12. Pegasus

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    Ok, that makes sense and I agree.
     
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  13. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

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  14. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
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    That's a very diplomatic way of saying that the job just wasn't that appealing to him.
     
  15. ChambersWI

    ChambersWI Member+

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    I was going to say same thing. On the Total Soccer Show Paul Tenorfio and David Goss both said the same thing. The job may not be appealing to GMs because there's a lot more beaucracy that you'll have to do with and has a lot of parts to it that soccer guys may not want.

    But again I don't think it's a coincidence that shortly after Jacobs decided not to pursue the job and people like Paul started talking about some of the concerns candidates may have, it's announced that the job is being reclassified
     
  16. Ray Shoesmith

    Ray Shoesmith Member+

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    Nov 14, 2021
    #241 Ray Shoesmith, Mar 23, 2023
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    Another hard reality US Nat only fans need to come to terms with.

    Fed jobs aren‘t as desirable as club jobs. Even like that in EUROPE! Shocking, I know.

    Losing Earnie was hands down the biggest blow that was endured recently.
     
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  17. ChambersWI

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    In a lot of ways yes. I don't thinonthis is specific to bigsoccer but I think in general in the fandom fans don't realize how much change (and IMO for the positive) Earnie has made towards youth development. I think you're going to start seeing the fruits of those labors in the next year moving forward (similar to how you are seeing the same with MLS since it's been about 4 years since the changes made to the academies)

    But I think even Earnie got tired of the backend stuff. A lot of podcasts that cover MLS and US Soccer have the same message. As the role was defined a big chunk of that role was something soccer people wouldn't like.

    Honestly it's why I'm surprised a guy like Dane Murphy hasn't gotten more attention for the role
     
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  18. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

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    It was reported that they reached out to him and he declined interest.
     
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  19. ChambersWI

    ChambersWI Member+

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    Ah didn't see that I saw Tanner, Jacobs, and Vermes
     
  20. deejay

    deejay Member+

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    Nonsense, Ray! All the world's best soccer minds are chomping at the bit to come and guide our untapped, hidden potential!
     
  21. Ray Shoesmith

    Ray Shoesmith Member+

    Valencia
    United States
    Nov 14, 2021
    We have players at Juve, Barca, Chelsea, Dortmund, Man City!, etc!! The talent is so overwhelming we should walk over everybody not in the top 10! The good ole days.:rolleyes:
     
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  22. Ray Shoesmith

    Ray Shoesmith Member+

    Valencia
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    Nov 14, 2021
    Go back and read some of that s**t. Look at the posters and see what they are doing now. You have always shown to be a top notch poster, with regards to understanding the basics of the game, and our place in it, so I know you recall it all, but damn.

    Why should any respect be shown to these clowns?
     
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  23. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
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    United States
    Since fans don't know, could you summarize or point to a summary of exactly what those changes were?
     
  24. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
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    United States
    Three of the US's starting 11 tonight vs Grenada were signed to MLS deals from the Union's Academy by Earnie Stewart.......

    Stewart goes to PSV, almost immediately loans out talented American Ledezma to MLS.

    There's a very vocal sect of the USMNT fandom that's going to be very pissed off about MLS improving and producing more and more quality players. Why? I have no idea why this will piss them off. I just know that it will.
     
  25. ChambersWI

    ChambersWI Member+

    Nov 10, 2010
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    AC Milan
    I find a lot of thr MLS discourse on social media perplexing. Like is it the best league? No. Has it been improving in quality at a fairly good rate? Yes. Between better scouting and better academies are a reason for that. I look at people using Tim Tillman looking good for LA FC as proof MLS isn't good where I personally think that a lot of it has to do with going from a fairly bad Fruerth side to a very good LA side which allows him to be highlighted more.

    And for what it's worth, I wasn't trying to attack MLS at all. I was more saying that with the focus on academies being higher you're now starting to see the fruits of those labors. Philly (in large part due to Earnie) are ahead of a lot of MLS teams with the academy. I've told the story before my little brother's indoor league for years played at the Union's Academy. It's a very impressive place.
     
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