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  1. luvwatchingsoccer

    Houston Dynamo
    Australia
    Mar 5, 2022
    Juve, even when you are making good points, your disrespect for other posters and your arrogance in dominating this board is effectively Bullying us all. Like everyone on this board, you have every right to your opinion. However, if you are angry with the direction of the club, do not believe that by winning us over, changes will happen? We are fans, not the people who make decisions. Having us say “Juve, you are so fr*ckin smart, you should be manager” doesn’t make one bit of difference,…Except for your ego. You must think that Pat, Asher and Ted are reading this board? Is that why you post so, so much? If they are reading this board, why haven’t they taken your advice? Maybe they’re as frustrated with you as we are. Maybe they too have stopped reading this board because it is blaring rant after rant by an angry “fan” who thinks they know more than they do,…or anyone else. You should apply for a job in the front office or coaching staff and convince them of your expertise. Or, if you had guts, message them directly with all your ideas. Send them as many letters as you post here. Even if your critiques are spot on, you are choking the life out of our fandom. Please reduce the length and repetitiveness of your posts. We aren’t the ones that make team decisions. If you’re trying to get us to boycott the team, I am not interested.
     
  2. DonJuego

    DonJuego Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In fact, JuvieChelsey was bitching and moaning about the horrible Dom Kinnear back in 2009 timeframe when the Dynamo were clearly one of the best, if not the best, team in MLS.
     
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  3. DonJuego

    DonJuego Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know the answer to weather the Dynamo could play 442, but regarding Franco not being a striker: Kinnear used to play 442 with one striker (ching) and a non-striker forward.
     
  4. Brian Gilchriest

    Eintracht Frankfurt
    United States
    Oct 3, 2020
    I wonder if he complains about getting docked 15 points by your own Federation, or getting banned for 2 transfer windows for signing Christian Pulisic......
     
  5. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    Damn dude. I know I've gained some weight fighting the pandemic but no need for name calling. I'm not as big as a wagon. Sheesh.

    And if anyone needs to give respect, it's you. Try giving it towards the staff, players, and fans. There's critiquing and then slamming. Look behind you. It's a few miles that way.
     
  6. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    aisha was the star of the club world cup game with the sounders. perhaps people have forgotten that rumor and certain folks were fairly dismissive of it.
     
  7. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    18 19 20 21 22 and working on 23

    if i have lost patience and ceased pulling any punches on them, that’s why.

    it’s not that hard.
     
  8. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    people on here think they know the source of my name and they are wrong. you now join the club. you are pushing nonexistent buttons.

    i am rough on this team because it is so consistently bad it rates bottom 10% of the league in making playoffs the [ast 5-6 years. if there was relegation this would be a USL team.
     
  9. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    #634 juvechelsea, Feb 6, 2023
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2023
    target guy and a speed guy

    and he did that so that we could score goals in our half court game but could also get off our own end, the blind spot of the cam weaver season

    i do not understand why be a crossing team without the equivalent of davis and ching to execute it

    it’s the difference between “holland” and the “USMNT” is building that on purpose

    to me it is far easier to build a cheap team around elis speed instead of davis technicality

    likewise most cheap plucky teams would build from defense first eg nashville

    we pick a game model to entertain fans who want winning instead, and then we aren’t competent enough to even properly staff the model up. if you are going to let the tail wag the dog and have the GM dictate cute tactics, he then needs to be sharp enough to get good x personnel for his x scheme.

    to me it’s telling we have ben come here then hand him most of the old defense, some poor mids. “good luck, now make olsen-catenaccio from that.”. a lot of the problem here is we need a good GM who is supplying a proven winner coach with precisely the player types his system needs. GM here is an empire building executive position to have some kid GM wet behind the ears lord over the coach when what we need is a coach who knows how to win with a sharp eye GM serving his wishes.

    and with a team this bad your DP needs to either fill nets or set up attackers like 15 times a season. last thing a cheap team needs is 2/3 of its DPs unproductive — HH is a retirement home joke — and while hadebe is decent he isn’t DP dominant. the foundation is rotten and the team isn’t built to suit some concept. system to entertain, players signed for the heck of it, circus has come to town.
     
  10. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    #635 juvechelsea, Feb 6, 2023
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2023
    kinnear’s problem was he used to try and sit on a tie or 1-0 lead for 70’, and he at the end descended into an empty bucket 3 DM caricature of himself. but relative to now, he had a sound system that ground results, could tell a good from bad player, generally, and effectively admitted mistakes by ushering poor choices back out of town within months.

    i contest massively that he or the team got the same treatment then. my posts would usually have praise for good plays or players every night, as we had talent where they would do something to wow you each week. ching clinching playoffs off a bike type sh*t. this isn’t a pimple on that. wanting a little more aggression is not the same as wanting competence. honestly at this point i tend to start off bashing the GM first because it’s so rubbish.

    i would give him crap for not playing certain young players enough, but relative to this he was generous. alex dixon and his ilk didn’t rot like the current batch does. we are literally scared to play developmentals now.

    and yeah, i would be critical of mistakes but poor players tended to end up gone, and the team generally won, which gave more balance to the posts. i did get some crap for being critical but to be real it used to be a fanboy meetup type thing where any criticism at all was disdained.

    to be crystal clear this was only ever a championship team twice, the first two years, and both times it involved making adjustments mid season. the team benefitted from being self critical. it is now far less self critical and tends to make no meaningful course corrections in the summer even if the wheels are coming off. the BS site here has always had a wagons circled quality and it’s even less defensible now.

    the “bullying” stuff is funny. this is like 10 on 1 and i struggle to get a thing i say accepted by anyone. if it’s confident and strident it’s i can see how bad this is and am amazed no one else does. i am not backing down. trying to reframe that 10 on 1 exercise as you being bullied is funny.
     
  11. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    last, to be crystal clear, in 17 i was the only one who thought it would make playoffs and win games in preseason. this is more about saying what i believe in my gut and not adopting groupthink than me being a constant critic. i will praise and back this when done right. it just isn’t.

    and if i think it’s good you folks would say it’s bad. that’s the real dynamic. even if we make the playoffs that year.
     
  12. *rey*

    *rey* Member+

    Feb 22, 2006
    Houston
    Gotdang he’s full of poop.

    Kinnear was only 2 championship years? Yet, the 2008 team that got beat by an outstanding GK performance in the playoffs and the 2009 team were possibly better than the 2006 and 2007 championship teams.

    You can’t be a Day 1 fan and not know that unless you didn’t go to the games at Robertson.
     
  13. DonJuego

    DonJuego Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I keep coming on here, seeing an alert, and look forward to Dynamo news and discussion. Instead, I get the sane half of a totally insane endless ongoing debate with one insane guy.

    Folks -- he is just a troll. Stop feeding him. Put him on mute and return this board to sanity.

    Look -- I agree that everyone deserves their opinions. I'm cool with wacky opinions and this should be an open discussion. I've muted two people:

    1) Non-East girls magazine because he welshed on a bet. He owes me a beer and has refused to pay up. There are people on this board that I have bought beers for because I lost a bet. Being a welsher, to me, is a big fkn deal.

    2) The Troll because he is a troll. He just enjoys being the contrarian, winding everyone up, getting responses, and proving to himself how much smarter he is than everyone else. It is destroying the board. It is up to all of us to stop him with the mute option.
     
  14. Brian Gilchriest

    Eintracht Frankfurt
    United States
    Oct 3, 2020
    Realistically, even if they expand the playoff format to 9 teams, what would you guys say our chances of making the playoffs are this year?
     
  15. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020
    I still don’t think it’s above 50% but still a lot better than what it was. I think realistically if you have a goal for making the playoffs and you go 1 & done in the 8 v 9 game you can’t call that year a success
     
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  16. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    at expansion to 9 I think we are 50/50. I say that because a) we’ve had some investment in improving roster, b) coaching has to be an upgrade from Nagamura and c) some number of teams, usually 2 or 3 in each conference, usually regress substantially. Probably 42 or 43 points gets you in, even last year Dynamo had 36.

    i agree that making 8/9 game in 9th and losing is a failure. Not really playoff fever and no home game.
     
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  17. Brian Gilchriest

    Eintracht Frankfurt
    United States
    Oct 3, 2020
    Would you take that over last year though? Full disclosure, I’m not even confident we get to 9th, just wondering where everyone else is.
     
  18. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020
    I think it depends on the context of the year. If the team is terrible out of the gate but picks it up near the end (without firing anyone) to improve on last years record I think you can live with that. If it’s the same pattern we’ve been seeing it’s unacceptable.
     
  19. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yes but part of that is it is really hard to miss MLS playoffs 9 out of 10 years. Feel there is some law of averages break we are owed. But also if you go to 9, gotta think 43 points gets you in which means if you can see 11 or 12 wins on the schedule and a reasonable number of ties you should make it in.
     
  20. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020
    I would suggest as well that being 8th and losing that game would be even worse. A team still needs to aim for top 7
     
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  21. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    agreed that the 8/9 teams have to win to feel like they made it.
     
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  22. DonJuego

    DonJuego Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    50/50. We either will or we won't.
     
  23. DonJuego

    DonJuego Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No. Not being competitive is not being competitive. Nothing short of being good enough to realistically compete for the Cup is acceptable.
     
  24. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    DonJuego is also a Pittsburgh Pirates STH as well, wasting his money awaiting a standard that can't be met by the team he supports.
     
  25. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006

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