Next Coach

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by nbarbour, Dec 3, 2022.

  1. SamsArmySam

    SamsArmySam Member+

    Apr 13, 2001
    Minneapolis, MN
    It's hard to imagine Ancelotti on the sidelines for the USMNT.

    Would love to see it.
     
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  2. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    Yeah, Ancelotti seems to be getting fed up at Real Madrid, and Klopp seems to be getting fed up at Liverpool. I know it's still highly, highly unlikely, but both of those guys might be more interested in a less intense national team gig to recharge/semi-retire than they were a few months ago.
     
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  3. FTGOTC

    FTGOTC Member

    Feb 21, 2021
    This probably has been posted here before and I missed it, so apologies if that’s the case. But it’s less about the USMNT specifically than the title would suggest and more about the general fact that great managers like the ones whose names are thrown around here rarely move into international football management. Definitely worth the read.

    https://www.theringer.com/platform/...nager-gregg-berhalter-jose-mourinho-world-cup
     
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  4. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Current status:

    Still up on Cherundolo

    I'm thinking that Curtin would be ok but maybe same "system-first" issues as Berhalter plus lack of familiarity with National Team programs and World Cup.

    Ditto Matarazzo

    Still down on Marsch

    Warming up to Mourinho but again lack of familiarity with NTs and WC.

    A part of me would be curious to see Bielsa another part would be scared witless
     
  5. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

    mine
    United States
    Aug 31, 2017
    I'm fine with moving on from from Gregg, but I'd take Berhalter over Marsch every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
     
  6. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Ancelotti just won his fourth Champions League. When he coaches superstar laden teams he is very good. When he coaches more down to earth teams it's not that great. I just don't see him in the USMNT.
     
  7. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So you're saying the USMNT is Everton??
     
  8. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s gonna be Marsch almost dead certainty at this point
     
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  9. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And I think in particular they don't really move to international management to coach anyone other than their native country. Klopp has said for instance that he'd specifically be interested in coaching Germany one day.

    I think with Ancelotti his wife in Canadian, he owns a place in Vancouver, and he's indicated he might be interested in the Canada job once he's done with club management. And it's not a huge stretch that if he's open to the Canada job, that he may be open to the US job as well.

    With someone like Pep Guardiola, for political reasons he may never be the coach of Spain. He also has his own idiosyncratic interest in the US and has said he'd like to coach here some day (whether in MLS or with the national team).

    To get a top coach everything has to basically line up timing wise and you need someone who for their own reasons has some interest in the US job.
     
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  10. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With possible Man City sanctions coming does Pep actually become possible? I'd think he's already been thinking of where to go next but he's done Spain, Germany and England so what is next?
     
  11. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2636 xbhaskarx, Feb 6, 2023
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2023
    Pep Guardiola literally just complained like a day ago that the trip from Manchester to London took like four and a half hours.... something tells me he may not be coming to MLS after all.

    [​IMG]
     
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  12. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Could we, please, have someone who isn't a psychopath? Anyone.
     
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  13. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Feels like the sanctions stuff is going to take some time to shake itself out. It has also been a bit of a frustrating season for Man City so far (though they aren't out of contention for the title at all). And while his contract runs through 2025 he apparently has outs if he wants to use them.

    But I still think the timing doesn't quite line up yet.
     
  14. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I still haven't been given an explanation of why Cherundolo didn't get a gig in Germany.
     
  15. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
  16. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
  17. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  18. nobody

    nobody Member+

    Jun 20, 2000
    Frankly, I liked Marsch more before his last two jobs ended pretty much in disaster. He did really well in MLS and then seemed to have a solid stint in Austria, looked like a coach on the rise. But, he's tanked at both his big time jobs now. Hard to say he looks like the guy you want to turn it all over too after that.
     
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  19. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well the last guy we did turn it all over to did decently well in MLS but not as well as Marsch did in MLS, and tanked in the Swedish second division which probably doesn't qualify as a big time job...

    the point being, if we're talking about just American coaches, the bar is NOT HIGH
     
  20. nobody

    nobody Member+

    Jun 20, 2000
    Yeah, and I've not been a big fan of a lot of what he's done so I'm hoping we go in a more positive direction for our next coach. Just saying with Marsch he looked like a guy on the rise so I can see why a lot of people were interested in him for the US. But, his last couple of years have changed the picture significantly as once he got his big chances, it's not worked out well.
     
  21. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    I would prefer Pep or Klopp, but would settle for Ancelotti. (ducks)
     
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  22. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don’t think there’s some grand conspiracy or he’s terrible behind the scenes. It’s a tough place to break through and candidly you have to have the right connects or take a chance at a lower level and shine so bright they can’t ignore you. He chose to go do the latter back home in the MLS instead of taking some second tier German team. If you think he’d walk into German top flight HC gig with no first team experience then you’re greatly overestimating the odds of that happening.
     
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  23. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    Inless you were a great (white) English player
     
  24. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd say that I believe Smetzer has done all he can as an MLS manager, and what we now have is all we'll have. I believe Curtin is currently on par with Smetzer, but has room for growth. [I believe there may be one to two others who are in similar position]. If we had to go with an MLS manager, right now, I'd opt for Curtin. My own view is that we want to bring in the best possible manager we can find in the world for 2026 [meaning someone who has a track record of creating teams that maximize the available talent, and who personally can reasonably talk things through with the American players]. This is an incredible opportunity we should not squander. Let one of our best managerial prospects be his assistant, so as to learn, to grow, into that higher level. The sad truth is that, so far, we have never had a first class manager come out of the USA.
     
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  25. RedBaron

    RedBaron Member

    Sep 9, 2001
    Pennsylvania
    Club:
    ACF Fiorentina
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Marsch just washed out in two consecutive jobs…one where he lasted less than a year, and one where he lasted less than a half year. How can you sell him to the supporters…much less the decisionmakers…with a straight face? There is no way in hell the USSF can appoint him the next manager nor should they.

    Some may consider the latest firing unfair, but coaching success is really a function of essentially four things…your tactics; your man-management; the talent at your disposal; and the health or lack thereof of your team. I think Jesse is a very good man-manager, so he’d obviously check that box for the National Team. But at Leeds, his team has been relatively healthy, and it would be hard to argue that he hasn’t had sufficient quality in his playing squad to avoid the predicament that Leeds currently finds itself in. So what’s left? Tactics, as many have noted. He just doesn’t possess the flexibility or willingness to adjust, and he shouldn’t be rewarded for that by getting the US job. I hope to hell I am wrong, but I fear that now that he’s available he’ll be the lazy way out for our clueless Fed.
     

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