Jesse Marsch out at Leeds, rumored for Southampton job

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  1. Papin

    Papin BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 19, 1998
    le côté obscur
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Prejudices? OK sure. It's based on results and criticism of Marsch's ineffective tactics and poor game management.
     
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  2. Typhaon

    Typhaon Member

    Nov 2, 2009
    Leeds fans worried they will put another AMERICAN in charge. Now... for entertainment value, that would be amazing!
     
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  3. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    Time to put Berhalter to the test.
     
  4. ChambersWI

    ChambersWI Member+

    Nov 10, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    I think some of the concerns about Jesse tactically are a bit overblown but I cannot say a change had to be made. The defense was just not getting better and despite creating some good chances goals had dried up.
     
  5. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
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  6. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seems not realistic that after Marsch is fired that they would turn to a Berhalter or Curtain.

    Armas is notably not leaving with the other staffers who were also let go. Wonder if he'll get to be interim till they hire someone.

    Well it'd at least give us a good comparison of Berhalter versus Marsch in similar situations.
     
  7. JUnionFan

    JUnionFan Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Sep 30, 2020
    I feel like I am going to be saying this a lot in the coming weeks, but as far as Marsch to the NT: please no.
     
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  8. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
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    why on earth is berhalters name being mentioned?
     
  9. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
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    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LOL Berhalter. That's a good one.
     
  10. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
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    Marschalter.
     
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  11. tefftlon

    tefftlon Member

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Jan 11, 2023
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    Because it'd be funny, no matter how it went (unless you're a Leeds fan...)
     
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  12. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
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    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Big Sam time?
     
  13. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Well, it sucks..................but not unexpected.

    There's too much at stake.

    I just have no clue who they change to.
    Dyche was sorta the obvious available guy for a relegation scrap.....................

    And yes:

    Marsch immediately becomes a USMNT coaching candidate.
     
  14. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Somewhat bizarre timing, one game after a big transfer window.
     
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  15. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
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    United States
    Probably just for the LOL's but he is good at fixing defenses. Their problem then would be scoring.
     
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  16. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This would also be a spot if the 49ers wanted to splash some cash and hire a big name manager. The money is worth it given how much staying up will impact the value of Leeds.
     
  17. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
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    Nat'l Team:
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    That definitely made it surprising to me as I thought he would get a few games with the new signings at least.

    Does Weston McKennie even come to Leeds if Marsch isn't the coach?
     
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  18. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
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    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Carlos Corberán
     
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  19. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Eh.

    You're implying that the Leeds board makes logical decisions......................

    Yes, it would have been logical to make a change after the Villa game on January 13th.

    That to me was the game in which it looked like his time was running out.
    But he held on for some cup games and for that frustrating match against Brentford.
    THAT's the one that got away for me. If they had won that home game against Brentford, I think he makes it to the end of the season.
     
  20. ChambersWI

    ChambersWI Member+

    Nov 10, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    If you believe Wes's friend on Twitter? Yes. He was more interested in playing with Tyler than anything else.

    Basically Everton, Wolves, and Leicester all winning this weekend forced Leeds's hand. Bottom of the table is tight.
     
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  21. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
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    there is no one- in the world- other than us fans who are remotely surprised by this. theres no lack of logic. to anyone with any sense at all this is no different than announcing they are going to a new pitch-watering system. "hm, ok".
     
  22. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am generally skeptical of random twitter dude who claims to be McKennie’s friend. That doesn’t mean it’s not true in this particular situation.

    But Adams also never comes to Leeds if Marsch is not the coach either.

    Aaronson seems like he would have either way though.
     
  23. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

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    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jesse's problem was that his system worked pretty well against teams that attacked, i.e., the upper tier teams, but didn't work against teams who sat back. He had no plan B. He was tactically naive. Live by Gegenscheiße, die by Gegenscheiße.
     
  24. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Ditto - I think he's worse than Berhalter as a tactician and I hate the Red Bull way even if Leeds was entertaining. If we want to progress past the round of 16 at a WC, running our balls off every game doesn't seem like the answer.
     
  25. Reccossu

    Reccossu Member+

    Jan 31, 2005
    Birmingham
    Not surprising. And not really unfair. But I kinda hope Leeds go down and that Adams, McKennie and Aaronson all find their way to better spots this summer.
     

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