2023 MLS Season

Discussion in 'Houston Dynamo' started by newtex, Dec 13, 2022.

  1. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    #76 juvechelsea, Feb 4, 2023
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2023
    mr. stats has to think there is a contradiction because he can't believe that for either organizational or "bored with losing" reasons this is becoming an unattractive place to play.

    eg adam seeking an unplanned trade.
    eg HH talking europe after this.
    eg gitaus headed out.
    eg HGP going to FCD instead.
    eg elis and manotas requesting transfers.

    mr. stats who wants to lecture us about loyalty like there is some underlying beautiful spirit thus seems holier than the players. the franchise's first era saw a lot of loyalty. second era was built around brad and boniek. what is the new loyal core? and if there isn't one anymore is there something fundamentally rotten or is it so long term a loser no one wants to give up that much career to see if it ever works out.

    the narrow version is the "got to build faster than this" so people are loyal to a winner. broader version is loyalty to a broader spirit.

    mr. stats is the last person to believe we have issues because he's a holier than pope fan.

    mr. stats will say maybe it's getting turned around and i wouldn't know but HH just now speculated about a next step after all our investment (whether i like it or not). gitaus walked. pinilla committed to college. etc. etc. read the room.

    i also told some of you it was dangerous if you talked resources and strong efforts then last season happens. if you want that sort of talk to be taken serious and get you a "pass" as a "new" team you want to join, a real revival of the old ways, it has to rapidly become that thing. otherwise, everyone emits hot air. new owner made it believable but you have to flip the switch in 60 seconds. you cannot take 3 years. you take years how is it objectively different than jordan and brener to an outsider or skeptical fan.
     
  2. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020
  3. Brian Gilchriest

    Eintracht Frankfurt
    United States
    Oct 3, 2020
    Sebas got some decent service? This is new lol. Looks like Bassi on the pass?
     
  4. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020
     
  5. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020
    Looked like HH -> Baird -> Sebas
    As I saw it at least
     
  6. Brian Gilchriest

    Eintracht Frankfurt
    United States
    Oct 3, 2020
    This is going to be HARD for some people to take. I think we're better than San Jose, I hope we're better than St. Louis. I don't think Vancouver and RSL are that much better than us. But we definitely aren't a lock to make the playoffs.
     
  7. Brian Gilchriest

    Eintracht Frankfurt
    United States
    Oct 3, 2020
    You're right, it was Baird.
     
  8. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020
    Also looking in the video it seems that Coco is about even, if not further up the field, than Sebas. I know it’s just a sliver but it’s interesting when we have no lineup info from either of the two games so far
     
  9. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Dynamo preseason 2023:
    Times are CT

    Feb. 1: Club America 6-1 Dynamo
    Feb. 4: Tlaxacala 0-2 Dynamo
    Feb. 7: UNAM Pumas v. Dynamo 11:00 am

    Feb. 11: CF Montreal v. Dynamo @ Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Feb. 15: Columbus Crew v. Dynamo @ Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Feb. 18: Dynamo v. FC Dallas 7:30 pm

    No match report from Saturday that I've seen. One more scrimmage in Mexico on Tuesday. I don't expect any info from that one either.

    EDIT: I did figure out the opponents in Florida.
     
  10. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    The Astros' have announced times for their games. The conflicts look like this:

    Wednesday, June 21: Astros 1:10 pm, Dynamo 7:30 pm
    Saturday, July 8: Astros 6:15 pm, Dynamo 7:30 pm
    Sunday, August 20: Astros 12:05 pm, Dynamo 7:30 pm
    Wednesday, September 20: Astros 1:10 pm, Dynamo 7:30 pm

    Only one that directly interferes.
     
  11. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020
    https://theathletic.com/4160858/202...f-training-center/?source=user_shared_article

    It’s looking more like the playoffs will feature a best-of-3 round before being single elimination until the final. It would also include expansion to 9 playoff teams per conference with teams 8 & 9 having a play in game. The owners of the league are doing these changes to provide more playoff content to Apple and increase gate revenue.
     
  12. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I totally understand it for providing each playoff team with a home game, but you’ve now diluted even more the value of a single regular season game more. Dynamo glory years were back when 8 of 13 made it so similar ratio to then, but that was probably two MLS versions ago. Lots of years where 55-62% of teams made the playoffs. Seems to me that 16 of 29 or 30 is the right figure
     
  13. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020
  14. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
  15. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020


    According to reports the friendly vs Pumas today finished 0-0
     
    Brian Gilchriest repped this.
  16. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020


    Some video published, again very Pumas focused. Taking it with a grain of salt since it’s a 1:00 reel, it seems like they’re allowing a lot of crosses
     
  17. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    baird
     
  18. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    #93 juvechelsea, Feb 7, 2023
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2023
    looks 433 still or some variation of it. franco LF. can't tell where bassi is. i have seen some sources suggest them competing for the LF slot which would be a waste. get either coco or HH off the field. or did they miss the lesson of last season without a 10 or DQ playing second striker/trequartista we have no offense.

    we don't step to the crosser fast enough, kinda jog. maybe we lack foot speed so we don't want to do the soccer equivalent of football press coverage, we feel the need to concede space and slowly close to not get run by. we then give up the cross in the space. the formation gives them no help, unless tracked by forwards a wing has a bunch of green space in which to receive the ball, even dribble up some, then hit a relaxed cross with their head up. if you play a 451 there is no space there, there are 2 layers of wing defense. if you play 442, same. even a 352 would have a wing whose job was to mark that. i do not understand why a team destroyed by crossing and lacking in many attacking elements lines up 433. the worst part is i think it's attempted pandering to fans who want something functional and winning instead.

    i thought 6-1 was horrifying and suggested ben wasn't "taking." but a couple 0s is growth. 3 goals in 3 games isn't much, particularly when 2 were on a second division team. but we will see when MLS preseason compo arrives how this matches up for sure. they will also probably start releasing lineups, subs, and formations. as well as the games themselves. they have been able to fly under the radar a week. i like that they changed the preseason mix up.

    the offense, the goal they showed the other day was two guys from last year feeding each other. that underwhelms, though MX teams would be hard. the defense seems to be giving up the same crosses as ever though the anecdotal footage today seemed to show some actual clearing headers for a change as opposed to endless chances. though who knows if we're getting A team oppo. The A v A portion of the MLS games will be the good hint where this sits. Their best, our best.
     
  19. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Dynamo preseason 2023:
    Times are CT

    Feb. 1: Club America 6-1 Dynamo
    Feb. 4: Tlaxacala 0-2 Dynamo
    Feb. 7: UNAM Pumas 0-0 Dynamo

    Feb. 11: CF Montreal v. Dynamo @ Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Feb. 15: Columbus Crew v. Dynamo @ Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Feb. 18: Dynamo v. FC Dallas 7:30 pm

    The Dynamo website is still radio silent on the games in Mexico. The social media wing has been posting pictures but nothing about the actual scrimmages.

    The team goes to Florida for a couple of games. We should get more info from these games.
     
  20. DonJuego

    DonJuego Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm just bewildered by MLS on this move. Not as much the numeric expansion, though I disagree with it. It is the move to a best-of-three first round. One of the basic lessons MLS has learned in its history is that everything they have done to "Americanize" soccer has been a mistake and hurt their business. While everything they have done to bring MLS in line with the World's game has helped their business. Best-of-three is an American sports thing. The world uses two-legged cup ties. Aggregate score. For me, forcing the first and second leg to be decided by penalty kicks is so messed up and stupid American sports driven. I hate it.
     
  21. DonJuego

    DonJuego Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    DynamoManiac repped this.
  22. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020
    You can never fully “de-Americanize” MLS. Ultimately the league still exists in the American sports economy where you have to have playoffs. The playoffs are always going to be the most watched product and I can see why the league wants to increase the number of playoff games. Why they can’t do 2 legs all the way to the final I don’t understand. Also I didn’t see where it said PKs for the first 2 of 3 games. When this was brought up earlier I heard someone talk about the winner would be determined as “first to 5 points”, IE a win and two draws gets you in.
     
    Westside Cosmo repped this.
  23. DonJuego

    DonJuego Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've seen the first to 5 idea. I was reacting to "best-of-3" wording. That, implies to me, a winner in each game. Having said that ... one game matches or two-legged ties. Those are the only options for me.
     
  24. Brian Gilchriest

    Eintracht Frankfurt
    United States
    Oct 3, 2020
    I think best of three is stupid as well. Question, do they still play the third game if the series goes 2-0?
     
  25. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jeez. You probably won’t pro/rel too. A concept that erodes franchise values in the Us
     

Share This Page