Giovanni “Gio” Reyna national team discussion (from YA)

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by gogorath, Jan 18, 2020.

  1. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That speaks to his intelligence and skill on the ball. This is my favorite Feilhaber play.



    Intelligent, patient, and silky smooth. Feilhaber.
     
  2. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If only soccer was scored like rhythmic gymnastics. ;)
     
  3. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    I miss those guys.
     
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  4. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    Alas, the US national team did not need any of that with Jurgen Klinsmann brilliantly guiding the team to a Lost Decade.
     
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  5. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great that when Arena came in in 2016 he made full use of Benny's Rhythmic Gymnastic skills in helping the US to qualify for WC2018!

    Wait did someone say in 2017 Benny got only 6 whole minutes in competitive matches under Da Bruce. :rolleyes:
     
  6. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting aside, Donovan, Feilhaber and Kjlestan each lead MLS in assists between 2014-2016 (Donovan lead the league in 2014, Benny was 2nd to Giovinco in 2015, Kjlestan first in 2016). I don't think anything close to that has happened since. None really featured strongly in the NT at the time; interestingly.
     
  7. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sacha had 5 caps and 2 goals in 2016. Returning to MLS and reinventing himself as a CAM dime dropper got him back into the NT picture under Klinsmann. Bruce also never used Sacha in 2017 outside of a Cupcake appearance.
     
  8. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was just an offhand observation, not really an opportunity to litigate the Klinsmann vs. Arena thing yet another time. But now that you bring it up, it does bring up something I've always liked about Klinsmann.

    That he got fired.
     
  9. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nothing to litigate. Da Bruce did not use either Sacha or Benny in the 2018 qualifying campaign, that is a fact.
     
  10. Bajoro

    Bajoro Member+

    Sep 10, 2000
    The Inland Empire
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I could be having the worst day ever (I'm not, btw), and all I have to do is see that clip and I'm on cloud 9. One of the great moments ever for this USA fan.
     
  11. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Donovan, Feilhaber, Kljestan, AND Nguyen.... Klinsmann talked a big game about proactive soccer and then had no interest in guys like that.

    MLS assists:
    2014: Donovan 1st
    2015: Feilhaber 2nd
    2016: Kljestan 1st

    MLS MVP:
    2014: Nguyen 2nd
    2015: Feilhaber 3rd
    2016: Kljestan 3rd
     
  12. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bruce Arena explained very clearly why Donovan did not make WC2014, "Does not have Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant genes did not know what you were going to get from him".

    You are aware that the pool exists outside of MLS right?

    In any case MVLee got his first callup in 2014 in 7 years under Klinsmann. 6 of his 9 caps started in 2014. Kljestan was a regular under Klinsmann getting 23 caps in total and 5 caps and 2 goals in 2016.

    Klinsmann never called Roldan and preferred Acosta over Trapp so there is that but Arena also never called Trapp, quickly discarded Roldan in favor of Acosta.
     
  13. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought Klinsmann's lineup choices were bizarre all around. He put a huge emphasis on ball-playing center backs, sometimes at the expense of defensive ability -- and at the exact same time he ignored technical ability in favor of work rate in attacking positions, which negated all the benefits of having good passers at center back. It was completely backward. He seemed to be favoring secondary skills at the expense of core skills at every position. What ended up happening repeatedly during Klinsmann's tenure was that our center backs made pinpoint long passes to players who couldn't hold the ball under pressure, and then got burned when we lost the ball.

    Re: Lee Nguyen, he started his pro career as a winger but his career didn't take off until he was moved to the center. And yet every single one of his USMNT appearances was on the wings.
     
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  14. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is all made up nonsense.

    Klinsmann, unlike Berhalter, knew what an effective international player looked like. JK understood that appearing to have technical skills in a lower tier league that would not translate to the international game was useless.
     
  15. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    you guys know this a thread about gio, right?
     
  16. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well Benny has a massive 2Gs and 2As in 44 matches while Gio has 4Gs and 1 A in only 16 matches. ;)
     
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  17. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lee Nguyen was the American Pierre Littbarski. Discuss.
     
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  18. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ricardo Pepi agrees.
     
  19. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Stop mentioning klinsi in threads it turns into same BS every time
     
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  20. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's funny... imagine still defending Klinsmann in the year 2023, as if he's out there getting jobs and having any sort of success... oh right he must be choosing to remain unemployed, that explains the 10 games with Hertha Berlin.
     
  21. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    Sergio Ramos slept on the Texas Assassin and got worked like a punk.
     
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  22. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nobody cares, my dude. My post didn't mention Klinsmann or Bruce, so no idea why they had to be brought up.

    The guy who took Mix Diskerud and Chris Wondolowski to a World Cup? Really makes Berhalter's fringe picks look downright rational by comparison.
     
  23. 50/50 Ball

    50/50 Ball Member+

    Sep 6, 2006
    USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Box score scouting again.
     
  24. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    Unfortunately for people who want to dodge Klinsmann discussion, IMO the US World Cup efforts for 2022 to 2014 are worth exploration as a comparison. Setups that are somewhat similar on paper, question marks over where the creativity will come from based on the managers' selection, and controversial player selection decisions such as Reyna. Every World Cup will have the debates over player decisions unless the US wins it, but the 2022 controversy echoes most clearly in 2014 IMO. Berhalter wins the comparison, but that doesn't mean that the comparison cannot be instructive.
     
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  25. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    Reyna gets his 3rd post-World Cup goal for Dortmund in another sub appearance.

    Coolly slides it past the Freiburg goalkeeper (who seemed to have his sightline partially blocked?) from the edge of the box. Smart finish.
     
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