2023 SheBelieves tournament

Discussion in 'USA Women: News and Analysis' started by lil_one, Dec 9, 2022.

  1. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    US Soccer has now officially announced the 2023 SheBelieves tournament: https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/20...ted-by-visa-featuring-usa-brazil-canada-japan

    Schedule:
    Feb. 16: Japan vs Brazil in Orlando, FL at 4 pm ET
    Feb. 16: USWNT vs Canada in Orlando, FL at 7 pm ET
    Feb. 19: USWNT vs Japan in Nashville, TN at 2:30 pm CT

    Feb. 19: Brazil vs Canada in Nashville, TN at 5:30 CT
    Feb. 22: Canada vs Japan in Frisco, TX at 3 pm CT
    Feb. 22: USWNT vs Brazil in Frisco, TX at 6 pm CT
     
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  2. PortiereNuovo

    PortiereNuovo Member

    Jun 20, 2019
    A much stronger group than the last tournament. Hopefully the US will pick our form up.
     
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  3. zdravstvuyte

    zdravstvuyte Member

    Aston Villa
    United States
    Jul 26, 2018
    Back on tour !!!
    Many of us are going to need a dodgy stream cuz it’s all either on yet another damn streaming service or TNT which no longer broadcasts outside the USA. Not to mention how piss poor they are at covering football.

    I really hope our team makes a hellava $cash$ haul outta this deal.
     
  4. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    SheBelieves roster announced:

    GOALKEEPERS: Adrianna Franch (Kansas City Current; 10), Casey Murphy (North Carolina Courage; 12), Alyssa Naeher (Chicago Red Stars; 87)
    DEFENDERS: Alana Cook (OL Reign; 21/0), Emily Fox (North Carolina Courage; 24/0), Crystal Dunn (Portland Thorns FC; 128/24), Naomi Girma (San Diego Wave FC; 12/0), Sofia Huerta (OL Reign; 27/0), Becky Sauerbrunn (Portland Thorns FC; 212/0), Emily Sonnett (OL Reign; 70/1)
    MIDFIELDERS: Lindsey Horan (Olympique Lyon, FRA; 123/26), Taylor Kornieck (San Diego Wave FC; 9/2), Rose Lavelle (OL Reign; 86/24), Kristie Mewis (NJ/NY Gotham FC; 47/7), Ashley Sanchez (Washington Spirit; 19/3), Andi Sullivan (Washington Spirit; 39/3)
    FORWARDS: Ashley Hatch (Washington Spirit; 15/5), Alex Morgan (San Diego Wave FC; 201/120), Midge Purce (NJ/NY Gotham FC; 22/4), Megan Rapinoe (OL Reign; 197/63), Trinity Rodman (Washington Spirit; 12/2), Mallory Swanson (Chicago Red Stars; 84/28), Lynn Williams (NJ/NY Gotham FC; 49/15)

    Tierna Davidson will also be in camp , but not rostered, as she finishes up recovering from injury.

    https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/20...or-the-2023-shebelieves-cup-presented-by-visa
     
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  5. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  6. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Players who coaching staff are still looking at but not on this roster:



     
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  7. RevsRule

    RevsRule Member+

    NE Revs, LAFC
    Jun 9, 1999
    N. Eastern, Mass
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like the ones missing list all but not sure about Heath? I have some problems with some names this time out. I think its a mistake to keep calling in Morgan, Rapinoe, Midge, and Horan. I also wonder what's going on with Ertz and Sam Mewis? In the case of the oldsters, I'm wondering if Vlat is too scared to tell them they're done?

    Vlat needs to find them
     
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  8. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is already in the WWC roster thread, but since it does relate here: Vlatko directly said Sam Mewis is OUT for this WWC, so she's not coming back any time soon, if ever. From my understanding a previous surgery (on her knee?) didn't work, and she recently had a second surgery. Staff have known she's been out of WWC roster contention for awhile, but were waiting for Sam to announce that herself before commenting.

    On Ertz, he also said time is running out for her to get meaningful club minutes before the WWC and they are NOT counting on her for the WWC (But she's not off the radar. If she did start playing well for a club, I think she'd still get called in for the April window). I am speculating here, but wonder if she's still not sure about coming back after having a baby. It looks like she has resumed training, but maybe her heart is not in it anymore or maybe she's struggling to recover as quickly as some of the other USWNT moms did.
     
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  9. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Apart from the expected questions about the midfield, I have to question what is the point of having Crystal Dunn on the roster at this time (and I'm a big fan). She's been clearly below her usual standards since having her baby and would benefit from regular time with her club to regain form. There are several other players (Macario, Tierna Davidson, O'Hara, perhaps Press and Heath) who've been out for a while who will get a chance to make the roster in April after the NWSL is back underway, so what's the point of having Dunn take another midterm exam now UNLESS THE POINT IS TO GIVE HER A CHANCE TO FAIL AND PLAY HERSELF OFF THE TEAM?!
    Emily Fox has been doing fine (at both left back AND right back), so why not find out how well some others handle this level of competition? Say Hailie Mace, Carson Pickett, to name a couple who other fans often bring up; or Courtney Petersen who was just traded by Orlando t Houston and was one of the few bright spots in Orlando the last few years.
     
  10. ytrs

    ytrs Member+

    Jan 24, 2018
    There is a rule in the CBA that players coming off pregnancy have to be brought back into at least one camp (to have an opportuntiy post-pregnancy). But, also, Dunn was our best outside back prior to her pregnancy, so of course they are going to give her every opportunity to regain her form. There was no club going on this winter, so having her in camp made all the sense in the world. She just had a baby. Give her a little time to regain her form. Fox and Dunn are the likely starting outside backs at the World Cup if Dunn regains her form.

    Have you been following the national team? Mace and Pickett have been brought into camps. Mace looked completely lost. She is not technical or tactical enough for that level at this time. Pickett apparently did not impress him enough. There are too many defenders in the mix already. He isn't bringing in an inexperienced international level player. Peterson has zero caps. We are 5 months from the World Cup.

    O'Hara, Sonnett, Fox, Dunn, Davidson, Girma, Cook, Sauerbrun, Huerta will be battling it out for likely 7 spots.
     
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  11. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I do not think Dunn is that far off. In New Zealand, she was much better than the games before that trip. I think full match fitness is the issue, and a lot of that may come down to getting as much real game time on the field as possible. I thought Dunn on the left and Fox on the right looked like where Vlatko is heading.
     
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  12. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree Dunn isn't too far off but neither is it important to get a precise hour by hour satellite measurement of where she is at the moment; getting ready for the NWSL season with her club + league games will get her ready as much as these She Believes games will.
    Dunn on left and Fox on right, if Dunn gets back to her 2019 form, is not a bad thing at all, but I think Dunn is best used as a midfielder now, which is where she plays for her club (except when Parsons was using her as a center forward...!!!?)
    Good point about the CBA... but OK we've been there and done that, last yeaer as a matter of fact.

    You may be right about Mace. As I said I was deferring to the opinions of other fans. There's nothing like getting criticized for listening to other fans when they never criticized for those same opinions, but I guess I have a special gift for drawing criticism (tee-hee!)

    I give Vlatko some credit for getting 3 or 4 defenders into the regular rotation (Girma, Cook, Huerta, and perhaps Fox, although Fox seemed destined for the team), but it still looks not quite enough, doesn't it? And Vlatko was forced to play other defenders with the extended absence of Abby Dahlkemper, Tierna Davidson, and Kelly O'Hara (Dunn, too, for that matter). Good grief, here we are in a World Cup year and we're still assuming O'Hara and Sonnett are locks to make the team as long as they're not on crutches

    Maybe I'll have to work this conversation into the FIRE VLATKO NOW!?!? thread...
     
  13. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Canada seems to be missing it’s Euro based players, so taking it that they don’t have to attend this pre-camp to make the final SBC roster? If so, I’ve been very impressed by this one newbie named Lacasse(FC Benfica/Portugal); she’s a very fast left side winger. She’s credited with 5 goals in 6 games vs the likes of Barca & Bayern in Champions League action
    Missing too from their pre-camp list are Lawrence Fleming Grosso Buchanan, Zadorski. So be an bummer if they don’t make it but heads up for Canada for at least trying out new players

    Brazil looks like they’re sending their best. I’m surprised to see Marta on their squad(thought she retired). They should be pretty strong on offense, featuring not just the amazing duo of Debhina & Kerolin from NC Courage, but Geyse has become the starting striker at uber stacked Barca/Ludmila one of the leading scorers in the Spanish league.
    Dunno how good they are but both Adriana & Bianchi signed recently with NWSL clubs. Traditional Brazil been weak on defense, but current CB’s Tainara & Kathleen starf for Bayern & Real Madrid respectively. Noticed though their previous midfield vets, Alves & Andresshina are missing
     
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  14. hocbz

    hocbz Member

    Feb 15, 2016
    Don’t see anything wrong with calling in dunn because she is almost there. It’s about getting chemistry with the group who is almost certainly going bar further injuries. No uncapped player is getting chances at this point and mace/Pickett aren’t going unless there is an injury crisis.

    I agree with heath ... shouldn’t be in the pool anymore imo. She’s been around for 20 years and can’t stay healthy, and has been unimpressive in her last two tournaments. When is enough enough? Press, Macario should challenge for the last forward spots from Williams, Purce and hatch. I’ve made my feelings on Morgan clear in here but I’ve accepted shes not going anywhere at this point. Hatch could score 50 goals before May and Ms. Super bowl commercial would still be the starting 9 until Macario is healthy.
     
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  15. fire123

    fire123 Member+

    Jul 31, 2009
    I understand the reason for trying Dunn but I don't see the point. She has to play light out to move Fox off the left back spot. Fox has done a fantastic job , better than Dunn at her best. If you move Fox to the right, you are risking getting average performance from Fox and unpredictable performance from Dunn. I think Fox on the left, Huerta on the right are just fine. Then have 2 of the 4 back up them: Sonnet, Davidson, O'Hara, Dunn. The 3 center spots are obviously Brunn, Girma, Cook.
     
  16. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fox is doing great and I suspect she's probably our best left AND right back at the moment, but "better than Dunn at her best?" She hasn't shown that yet. She may soon enough but Dunn has been fantastic for the US, shutting down dangerous attackers in the World Cup like France's Diani while still providing a threat in the attack. Let's not diminish how good Dunn was for US from about 2017 to 2021 in a demanding role
     
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  17. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you go back to the first half of the first New Zealand game, if I recall correctly the starting lineup had Dunn on the left and Fox on the right for the first half. I felt both did well in those positions. I agree with you on how good Fox is, but my guess at the time was Vlatko was trying that to see how it would work. I think right back has been a defensive liability for the team, and this seemed like a way to fix that. Huerta does some things well, especially going forward she is an asset, but I do not think she is a great defender.
     
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  18. fire123

    fire123 Member+

    Jul 31, 2009
    You can not gauge anyone against NZ.
     
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  19. fire123

    fire123 Member+

    Jul 31, 2009
    I've seen Dunn several years ago too. She was fast, which helped her as a defender but I don't think she was as good as Fox going forward. She never did go up that hi as often nor did she send in as many crosses. She tended to drift inside a lot which did not contribute to the attacking width. If you don't agree with me you have to show me some links to the games you think she excelled.
     
  20. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In my experience, it's the opposite. Half the time (or more) when Fox goes up in the attack, she cuts in on the dribble towards the top of the 18. Dunn was more likely to start passing combinations with Rapinoe and Horan (or whoever was on that side).
    It may also be a matter of understanding between teammates than just individual skills. Dunn, Rapinoe, Horan, for example, worked really well together.
     
  21. RalleeMonkey

    RalleeMonkey Member+

    Aug 30, 2004
    here
    Has the guaranteed contract structure for the USWNT been retired. Is he calling in the oldsters because they'll get paid whether they're called on or not? Or, are those days over?
     
  22. RalleeMonkey

    RalleeMonkey Member+

    Aug 30, 2004
    here
    We are very solid at fullback. Is there a reason that Dunn hasn't been tried as Ertz replacement at 6? She's small, but other than that, she's got all the tools.
     
  23. ytrs

    ytrs Member+

    Jan 24, 2018
    The announcer in one of the New Zealand games said that Vlatko was playing Dunn at left back and Fox at right back that game to give Dunn the most comfort level as she returns to form. I cannot guarantee Vlatko actually said that but this is what the announcer said. So it is possible Dunn eventually goes to the right side. But, Fox, who I think is very good, frustrates me with how every time she attacks from the left side she drives inside. She never overlaps on the flank, so she runs into a crowded midfield.

    Also, Fox is one bad hit to the head away from being out for awhile. She has a concerning concussion history.
     
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  24. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Those days are over. The new CBA is in place. Vlatko is calling in who he wants, and not dictated by a contract structure.
     
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  25. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All six games of She Believes Cup will be on cable TV network Universo (Spanish language)
     
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