Craven the Lifestyle: Antonee Robinson at Fulham

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  1. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
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  2. freisland

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  3. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
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    He played well. Team did not and that's disappointing. Given their standings in the table, they should be able to hold serve at home against most anyone. Played more like a #10 team (so, Chelsea level) than a #5 or 6 team. Still, given they were odds-favorite to finish 18th, it's an awesome season. Just have to fall into reasonable expectations for the team.

    For Jedi, his defense was incredible. His offense lacking. Fulham Jedi continues to be the somewhat opposite of USA Jedi - shows that how he is used makes a difference and he's really not the perfect LB for a team with a powerful CF that wants crosses in the air.
     
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  4. ChrisSSBB

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    #3179 ChrisSSBB, Jan 24, 2023
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    I listened to the 2nd half of the match and the color commentator (Chris Perry?) had both praise and some frustration for Jedi. Basically said that he does a lot of good things but misses with the ball at times with some basic plays.
     
  5. DCU1984

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    Yup that's what I have seen for the USMNT. He can hit a decent cross but his passing is a weakness.
     
  6. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

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    Feb 1, 2005
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    Interesting. I'd say his crossing is his main weakness at Fulham - he doesn't get the balls to Mitro that are hard and low enough to beat the defense and get headed on goal. And he makes little mistakes here and there (but I think most every player does so I give Jedi more slack for that - he's quite young yet). I think his best skill on offense is carrying the ball into the box, and Fulham really doesn't ask him to do that the way the US does.

    His defense is really good, though. So good that I think it's still underrated.
     
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  7. Eighteen Alpha

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  8. Mt Stone@

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    Apr 30, 2016
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    People saying his passing is bad... but a 91% passing average for an attack minded LB in a top half of the table Prem battle is fookin good.
     
  9. ArsenalMetro

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    Tottenham let Fulham do that though.

    His passing stats over the last year are well below average; 30th percentile among fullbacks for pass completion percentage, 38th for progressive passes.
     
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  10. iad_22201

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    Jan 2, 2009
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    A reason I still remain somewhat skeptical about links with him and bigger clubs. Yes, he's a speedy LB, but his distribution has just not improved much (and he's not a kid anymore, he'll be 26 in the summer). Speaking as a Fulham fan when you see him beating a man and streaking toward/into the box you should be excited, but I've seen enough of him to know that the odds of him making a good pass/cross aren't terribly good.
     
  11. BostonRed

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    The silliest of silly season happens in the last 48 hours:

     
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  12. freisland

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    The counter to this is he's maturing as a player - I haven't looked into the stats, but to my eye his game has gotten tidier and more precise. I think he's a very solid top-level back with some real attacking flair at times. May never be Bale or Cafu, but he's a top 1/2 EPL squad player for the next while.
     
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  13. Gorky

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    Agreed, but I think this is not the first time we’ve heard that link.
     
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  14. harttbeat

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    cancelo being gone might not be that silly; would fulham take $30million knowing that they are pretty much guarantee stay above next year?
     
  15. ArsenalMetro

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    £30 million would be Fulham's record sale. They've only sold one player above £20 million in their entire history (Sessegnon to Tottenham).

    Yes, they'd take it in a heartbeat.
     
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  16. DCU1984

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    This lines u with what I have seen, he's not a great passer. Doesn't seem like a good fit for Pep but who am I to disagree.
     
  17. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

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    Feb 1, 2005
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    Agree. Fans seem to believe this report is a load of crap and isn’t happening. They do think that Robinson is probably gone this summer, though. All will be sad to see him go but I may eat crow on Kurzawa- he might be a decent replacement. It’s one of those things that makes being a club like my phone challenging. You can find and develop really good players, but once you have to sell them, you have no assurance of being able to find or sign anyone of equal quality to replace them. That happens enough times and then you were in danger of the drop again.
     
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  18. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
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    Yep. I remind an Everton-crazy friend of mine if that fact often!! Ha (although it feels like kicking the dog this year, so I’m laying off). Antonee is a credit to himself. He has really developed from where he was those years ago. Two or three years ago and he flipped a switch and finally started putting it all together. It was definitely a gamble.
     
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  19. Dizi

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    I'm curious whether this goes through...it'd be cool to see him step up to an elite club.

    After City signed Akanji no subsequent transfer rumors can surprise me.
     
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  20. ChrisSSBB

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    Looks like Man City is going big with Theo Hernandes
     
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  22. BostonRed

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    https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...trick-world-cup-hug-iran-usa?CMP=share_btn_tw

    “It was the same for the World Cup. I got through the Man United game [Fulham’s last before Qatar] but even on my way to the airport I still didn’t believe I would play in a World Cup. I got to Qatar and it was like: ‘Well, I’ve got a week of training so I don’t know if I’ll play.’ It wasn’t until I’d actually played the first game that I could think: ‘I’m settled now. I’ve played in the World Cup.’”
     
  23. Pegasus

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    his close passing has improved and can still be better. His crosses are more of the blind to a spot type. If he keeps improving passing and starts to improve his crosses he could be a real asset.

    I see this a lot but it's missing context. The role at first was a hybrid LCB/LB role and ironically Ream was the standard for it (Lovetz was for when he wasn't available). Once Adams moved to DM (also because of Dest) and the Pirloesque DM role and hybrid RB/DM role was gone the Ream role was also gone and an attacking back on both sides was used.
     
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  24. no exit

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    Robinson's kind of an interesting one. Obviously his passing statistics in the EPL for Fulham this season are poor. But his Championship numbers the year before are capital-E elite. If a top club were to buy him -- and we know Milan was close, maybe there's something to the City numbers -- I think the bet is that Robinson's passing is good enough as a complementary piece.
     
  25. glutton4Bolts

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    Mar 18, 2019
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    His down the line passing and centers to the middle of the pitch on the ground are pretty good IMO... but his aerial crosses hardly ever find a head in the box despite having some decent whip on them. Aside from not being able to create consistent goal scorers, I would say that the inability to serve quality crosses into the box is one of the biggest problems we have WRT player development.
     
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