The Official Carlos Gruezo thread

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  1. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    On the positive side in terms of evaluating the Ecuadorian national team's quality, Edmundo Zura did not make the roster.

    Actually, they do not appear to be chopped liver. In 2022 WC qualification they finished 4th, behind only Brazil, Argentina, and Uruguay.

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  2. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m not impressed. This signing gives me Almeyda deja vu. Seems like the guy should be TAM.
    • Augsburg is 14th of 18 in the Bundesliga and have lost 10 out of 15 games. (So he’s coming to familiar territory)
    • Of the 13 league games he played in this season (2022-2023), Augsburg lost 7
    • While he played 2000 minutes in 2020/21, he played <1,000 mins in 21/22 and 19/20
    • Under Luchi, FCD sold him for 2M in 2018, and he comes back to Luchi at 3-4M
     
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  3. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

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    Feb 28, 2004
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    Augsburg is ranked 119 in the world, far ahead of any team in MLS. The top team in the Bundesliga is ranked number one in the world.

    Quakes are ranked 750. Maybe we can use this dude? :)
     
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  4. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    It's different than a FOM because Gruezo has plenty of MLS experience. He's already proven to be a very good player in MLS.
     
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  5. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

    May 29, 2003
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    Not only that but Luchi has experienced him in training and games against MLS caliber players. I'm not sure if scouting gets much better than that.
     
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  6. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #31 JazzyJ, Jan 31, 2023
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2023
    Yep. Luchi's comments about him were not exactly effusive - something something yeah had him for a few months and we got along well and I liked him and he'll give us more competition at that spot, etc. But he's gotta feel pretty good about it if we went ahead with a 3+ year contract for $3 mil transfer. Solid if not spectacular. Sometimes it's better to hit solid singles to center pretty regularly rather than swing for the fences.
     
  7. chris thebassplayer

    Feb 18, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I agree...imo, he'll play behind Yueill early in the season at the 6. We'd always have the option of subbing in Judson to play along side Gruezo if we need to clamp down late in the game...if/when we're up, especially on the road...that would be a nice pair to protect the backline if necessary.

    Imo, Luchi will assess how much continuity he has with his 8 and ACM. If it doesn't look good, Gruezo could slide up to a 6/8 instead of Yueill with Judson behind...just depends who we're playing and how strong he wants his central mids. If Cade has truly upped his game and the attack is clicking, Luchi can really clamp down the midfield...we actually have some quality depth and flexibility now. Gruezo, imo is a game changing addition for us.
     
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  8. nivla

    nivla Member+

    Jan 17, 2003
    Milpitas
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Is Gruezo going to play this Sat?
     
  9. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope you’re right.

    Something like this?

    Cade - - - - - - - Jebo - - - - - - Espinosa
    - - - - - - - - - - - Jamiro
    - - - - - Jackson - - - - - - Greuzo
    Trauco - Rodriguez - Nathan - Akapo
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - Daniel

    Maybe Benji in for Espinosa, Espinosa slides back to midfield, and Jackson goes to the bench? And we play with just one d-mid?

    Go Quakesfans!!
     
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  10. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    That is probably the opening day lineup I would guess. Benji vs. Cade is a tough one. I hope they both get decent minutes this year. And Niko as well.
     
  11. bostero24

    bostero24 Member

    Jun 27, 2008
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    Gruezo is a defensive mid. No more, no less. He's not going to score or assist much. He's a destroyer and quickly facilitates his other attacking team mates. What he should definitely bring is stability not only in the midfield but more importantly to our defense. If he's able to help the backline and free up our attacking players then he's not only worth the 3 mill (which is nothing in today's footballing world) but hopefully we'd be more competitive and be able to at least fight for a playoff spot.
     
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  12. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
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    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Strange to see so much optimism in this thread! Maybe times they are a-changing!

    (I, on the other hand, have a lot of jaundice about the Quacks to overcome… if that’s even possible.)
     
  14. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS

    maybe times they are a-changing, but I'm reserving a healthy dose of let's wait and see. we haven't added any attacking players over the off season so for scoring we will be 100% relying on Jebo equaling or exceeding his goal production from last year along with Cade/Benji/Espinoza/Monteiro increasing their goals and assists (and we'll need some help from the kids Niko & Bouda). We still don't have a dangerous set piece taker and we're not going to be any kind of an aerial threat. Defense remains to be seen; the improvement has to be dramatic for Quakes to be much better...

    ...and let's make no mistake, Gruezo is a FoL,100%...so let's hope Leechi was smart deferring to Loochi on our one big time offseason (and biggest transfer of the fish-era) designated player signing. I'm glad he's here, we need all the help we can get, but I'm going to have to see how he fits in and how impactful he is before getting too excited.
     
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  15. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #40 JazzyJ, Feb 1, 2023
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    A gentle reminder that if you score the same number of goals but the other team scores less you get more points! The Quakes were 6th in the west in GF last year, and we have all the same attacking players, with more Niko presumably, and a presumably improving Cade and Benji. So a panicked “Where are the goals going to come from!!” seems to lose its sheen in that context. But we were dead last by a wide margin in GA. Focusing on improving the defense therefore seems like a rational thing to do.

    That said you should never stop trying to improve. I’d like to see an impact attacking player added before the season starts but not hopeful.
     
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  16. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

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    Feb 28, 2004
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    Haha: You were the one clamoring for player acquisitions all offseason while I urged patience, grasshopper. Now we have them and you have flipped the script.

    "Hurry up . . . and let's wait and see!"
    -- @Quakes05

    :)
     
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  17. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I think we’re done - not going to see any more signings, with the exception of draftee signings. Maybe a trialist signing? Wonder if that USL forward is still in camp. Remaining gaps that I see are depth at CF and depth at LB (and no, Tanner Beas(t) is not a left back!).
     
  18. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    not true, grasshopper. I’ve been clamoring for a roster overhaul, consistently. We need offensive help too, that’s been obvious. D was most important tho as that was our biggest area of weakness last year, so we’ll see how much these moves help. Quakes have been so poor for so long some of us may need to see actual progress, on the field, before getting our hopes up…

    …here’s hoping the biggest signing of the fish era, and our first official FoL, works out!
     
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  19. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

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    Feb 28, 2004
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    So, it never mattered what Rick Astley did in the off-season, you were gonna be dissatisfied. Glad we cleared that up. :)
     
  20. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    #45 Quakes05, Feb 1, 2023
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2023
    I can imagine a scenario where I would’ve been more hopeful, prior to opening day. We signed Ballisimo, Daniel & Gruezo. These are all defensive acquisitions. Might be enough to make us better but years and years of coming up short have left me skeptical - at this point I’m going to need to see progress to believe it, which is my tendency anyway but especially when it comes to our chronically underperforming small team. Like I said, a solid offseason attacking addition would’ve inspired more confidence - still could happen. Go RA!
     
  21. bostero24

    bostero24 Member

    Jun 27, 2008
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    Ah..... Leitch hasn't done much. Sorry Don, the only intriguing moves with hopefully upsides that I see from this window is Gruezo & our new Brazilian keeper. Time will tell but you can't actually think/expect for our Quakes to just stroll into the playoffs with the moves (lack of) he's made?!?
    I guess if his plan is to be ready for MLS cup by 2026 then maybe we might get more competitive over time while bringing in 2-3 players every fifa window. Doubt every player he signs will be a hit, more than likely we'll have a good amount of turnover until '26 considering most are coming in on the cheap ,without really spending.
     
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  22. OffMyLine

    OffMyLine Member

    Nov 30, 2007
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]
    Hmmm, Didn't get the 2026 memo. I like this guy.
     
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  23. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

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    Feb 28, 2004
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    #48 don gagliardi, Feb 1, 2023
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    You wanna get in on the beer bet regarding Quakes making playoffs this season. I believe it's @Beerking, @Replikait. And you? (I'll take a Quilmes). :)


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  24. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS

    I’m in on that action. I’ll wager a six pack, I’ll take the St Pauli Girl NA. :D

    I like the magical thinking though and the irrational optimism! :thumbsup:
     
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  25. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

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    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Bet is a single beer at Beers of the World. :)
     

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