The 2023 MLS TV thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by NFLPatriot, Jan 6, 2023.

  1. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Like Beckham? The ramifications of his signing with the Galaxy are still being felt more than 16 years later. Expansion fees have grown from $10 million to more than $320 million, the number of players has more than tripled to about 800, average salaries are up more than 500%, according to the players’ union, and just six leagues in the world had a higher average attendance than MLS. It's a long list of accomplishments since the signed for him & the league.
    https://huddleup.substack.com/p/the-hidden-details-behind-david-beckhams
     
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  2. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    And yet the most watched season remains 96. Beckham moved the needle for TV ratings exactly once - against Chelsea, his farcial debut.
     
  3. eddygee

    eddygee Member+

    DC United
    May 12, 2007
    Moco, Maryland
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The misnomer on the MLS Apple deal is that MLS is locked into it like they can only make money from the $250m yr. Not even counting that thats a minimum amount with escalators the TV side of their deal is only for 4yrs. The rights will be up after the 2026 season. Its fool hardy to talk like that. I feel some are forgetting that or either willfully dismissing that. Do so at the risk of being wrong.

    Also whatever you think of MLS hierarchy in the rankings its not a question of other leagues displacing MLS in streaming MLS has already carved its stake in the area with the richest company on earth. They"re in the building in a away they never were able to get in on linear TV so far.` So even when the big boys NFL/NBA move heavy into streaming and it cuts MLS from huge rights fee increases them getting in early starts them off at a much higher floor than had they moved in late 5-10 yrs from now where they're fighting for scraps trying to justify why they deserve more.
     
  4. eddygee

    eddygee Member+

    DC United
    May 12, 2007
    Moco, Maryland
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Different TV era its easy to cherry pick Numbers from all sports are no where close to what they were in the mid 90s. I can just as easily make a argument if you take the current form of MLS in place it in the 90s TV landscape they're pulling evenmore then if not double the numbers then. The product is that much better and it likely would've retained and gained the initial fans that checked in and went woof. The interest on TV side in MLS has tangentially went up since the 2000s I feel this is a argument your making that isn't really based in fact. The league has never been more popular outside of the artificially high first years of curiosity. Stuff like MLS Cup Final that sort of is a landmark event for any league of how popular your league is. How many people can we get to tune into our big most important events. There was the initial peak the first 1-5 yrs then the dark ages before interest really started to rise.
    I'm sure i'm not the only one that remembers not too long ago where we would get hype and excited if a MLS Cup got over 1m, where as the measuring stick has shifted to "Oh I wonder if MLS can pull close to 2m, that'd be cool"
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  5. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    So many words to basically say "I agree, MLS is not even as popular as it was in 96".
     
  6. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    [​IMG]
     
  7. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The highest rated Super Bowl was in 1982. Are you suggesting the NFL was at the height of its popularity 40 years ago?
     
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  8. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    31 more names added to Apple's coverage (but still no Richard Fleming)

    https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/appl...1-talented-on-air-personalities-to-the-mls-se

     
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  9. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Yes
     
  10. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's not about ratings, it's about revenue. Ratings don't mean shit and 1996 is an apple and orange comparison in today's media world.
    Liga MX has better ratings than the EPL, yet when it comes to revenue....
     
  12. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    You're doubting that Liga MX is more popular in the United States than epl???
     
  13. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Read it again.
     
  14. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Who cares about revenue outside the United States? How is that relevant?
     
  15. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    If you mean because apple tv is worldwide... Still not relevant because epl is not big because of one player.
     
  16. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It you can't understand how revenue is relevant, I don't think we need to go any further.
     
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  17. eddygee

    eddygee Member+

    DC United
    May 12, 2007
    Moco, Maryland
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lol you can't read damn man I'm sorry I thought you could.
     
  18. eddygee

    eddygee Member+

    DC United
    May 12, 2007
    Moco, Maryland
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's full of hot takes today
     
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  19. eddygee

    eddygee Member+

    DC United
    May 12, 2007
    Moco, Maryland
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He wonders why he gets accused of being a troll at times.
     
  20. PTFC in KCMO

    PTFC in KCMO Member+

    Aug 12, 2012
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Crookeddy isn’t a troll


    …………


    If I say anymore the mods will be angered.
     
  21. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Basing progress on TV ratings is illogical. Constantly pushing the narrative is trolling. If you actually believe that MLS had its most popular year in 1996.... it's not worth the dialogue.
     
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  22. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't see how MLS being early in streaming gets them better fees in 2032 - and the amount that networks will pay for non-exclusive games is extremely limited. They are all going direct to consumer in that time - The thought that ESPN is going spend good money for non-exclusive games that they can't stream is absurd.

    Going with Apple TV all-in removed them from the marketplace to ever get large traditional TV fees.
     
  23. TheRealBilbo

    TheRealBilbo Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    The NFL rights agreement goes through 2032. I wonder at times whether traditional TV will survive that long.
     
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  24. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Excellent summary /\
    $79 for the season, say a 10 month season = $7.90 per month. killer deal in my opinion.
    For those who don't like the English TV announcers you can go with the Spanish announcers, try the radio feed or simply turn off the sound !
     
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  25. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Twellman > Lalas
    Will be nice to finally not have to deal with Lalas
    I hope he doesn't end up on TNT doing the USMNT or worse him working the Women's National Team or WWC in NZ
     

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