McBride out

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by superdave, Jan 20, 2023.

  1. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He says himself in his statement that he was waiting for the news for Earnie Stewart to be announced.
     
  2. MayaDempsey

    MayaDempsey Member+

    Jul 29, 2014
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    I see it now. Sounds like he got the news that the new position wasn’t gonna happen and the Earnie news last week. Solid dude.
     
  3. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    at some point we are gonna wildly speculate what this mystery position was, right? my early money is on sporting manager- directly between sd and gm- but i want to let some of the dust settle before moving on to that :thumbsup:
     
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  4. KickballWizard

    Jun 11, 2013
    He wanted to replace Berhalter?
     
  5. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  6. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    so McHead and Stewart both are on to their next challenge and Cone and Batson get to make the next decisions. Good luck to Earnie and Brian!
     
  7. honest trade

    honest trade Member

    Aug 15, 2010
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    McBride’s statement reads like an excerpt from George HW Bush’s memoirs on the Simpsons: “…and since I’d achieved all of my goals as General Manager in one term, there was no need for a second.”
     
  8. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    "Pretty soon it's just going to be Harry Crane and the computer..."
     
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  9. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    Yeah, Tenorio and Stejskal are reporting similarly, that some sources are questioning whether the USMNT side needs a general manager position at all if there is an active Technical Director and an involved Head Coach. They also suggest that the USWNT will likely retain their GM (Kate Markgraf). I get the reasoning, as the club game is weaker and the USWNT and national teams in general fill a larger role in the women's game.

    I interpret this as McBride basically saying that he didn't have enough to do as General Manager for the USMNT.
     
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  10. honest trade

    honest trade Member

    Aug 15, 2010
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can just picture McBride meeting with the Sportsology Group:

    “I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?”
     
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  11. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    It seems to me that he was angling for Earnie's spot.
     
  12. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I think the Sporting Director also took a far greater hand in the men's side of things, creating less of a space for a GM. I assume Markgraf does a lot of the women's specific youth work, etc.

    The issue is that the task(s) they gave to McBride is fairly time consuming and if you take their comments at face value, there's a benefit of even a need in a higher ranking or well respected person to negotiate releases with clubs, etc. It may be that this isn't necessarily something you can tag onto an assistant or low level admin.

    I think it is highly likely that we fill the head coaching job and basically fill the GM as needed. Some coaches will want the help; some coaches won't want the layer; some coaches ... we may need the money to pay the coach.
     
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  13. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    if theres not enough to do for a gm why would there be some new mystery position he was waiting for? (not directed at you, @schrutebuck, just thinking out loud)
     
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  14. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cone said something like once they learned Earnie was leaving they decided to do a complete review of their whole structure. So it seems the new mystery position was one Earnie proposed but disappeared when he left.
     
  15. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    right, but what im wondering is this- earnie did whatever he did as sd. mcbride did whatever he did as gm, right? so if mcbride felt he didnt have enough to do as gm then how/what would the theoretical new position be/offer?

    (bad analogy time) if you and me buy a taco truck, i work open and close every day, do the books, decide on the menu and you dont have a lot to do other than working the window with me and maybe designing flyers every now and then you feeling you dont have enough to do makes sense.

    so how can there be some new position thats more appealing to you if you didnt even have enough to do before?

    its a pretty sad conspiracy theory i know, but i cant get my head around this mystery position. why on earth would anyone make that up (that there was one considered), but more curious is what it possibly could have been that couldnt just be some new responsibility mcbride could have just taken on?
     
  16. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    It's all good. They don't need those positions, just hire a couple secretaries.
     
  17. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm going to need those TPS reports ASAP. So if you could just do that, that'd be greaaaat.
     
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  18. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    with the way us soccer works I can't help but wonder if that mcbride was semi told that he would be next in line for earnie's job when he left or this new top secret job thats now disappeared. then when everything happened with reyna and GGG they realized how bad it would look to 'promote' mcbride and only express interest in a couple coaches that had zero interest in the job to only announce GGG's return.
     
  19. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We may see it at some point once they have a sporting director in place. My sense is everything else is frozen until that happens. We aren’t getting a U23 coach anytime soon for instance. Though at this point I’m sort of expecting that it may end up being Anthony Hudson.
     
  20. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm thinking Varas as a lot of the players will be those U20's he coaching. He used them for U23 qualifying and will just need to supplement with a few more that are a bit older. He will have a lot more experience coaching that age group than anyone else. Have to add that he looked great at U20/U23 qualifying but he still needs to keep it up at U20 WC. If he bombs then he's out.
     
  21. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think Hudson should be the U23 coach. But I could see US Soccer giving it to him if he does a good job as interim. There's no chance he's getting the USMNT coaching job, but the U23 coaching job seems super gettable for him. We already hired him to coach the U20s in the past as it is.

    I would be very happy with Varas as U23 coach. I just think it's likely he takes an MLS job post U20 World Cup.
     
  22. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I expect we won't have any U23 program until the U20WC is completed in June.

    But its certainly possible that if the U20s do well at that event, we'll promote Varas to the U23s.
     
  23. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder if the Olympic coaching job intrigues him? I don't think he's ready for a MLS head coaching job but I'm not sure where a promising coach not quite ready yet should go. USL? Second tier Europe? I thought Luchi was too early for FCD and Varas is in a similar spot and also see what happened to Tab Ramos. Youth coach for the US or youth coach for academies doesn't translate directly to good MLS coach.
     
  24. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    The last few youth coach to MLS coaching pathways were not successful -- though two of them were the Chicago Fire, so YMMV. But Wicky, Ramos, Paunovic (Serbia), hell, toss Hudson in who did a lot of youth coaching ... I'd bet MLS teams are shying away here.

    The U23 job is just one additional year with a lot of the same players. I think it would be a good way to to highlight that you can coach a little older player with more pro experience. Motivating and coaching youth teams is different than club, but also because adults are different.
     
  25. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe, but I do think Varas is highly regarded and we know he’s already been interviewing for MLS jobs.

    If we have a good U20 World Cup run I imagine he’ll get offers. If I were him I’d want to be very particular about where I went.

    But if letting him coach the Olympics keeps him with US Soccer I’d for sure offer it to him if it were up to me.
     
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