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Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by nbarbour, Dec 3, 2022.

  1. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    Gio
     
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  2. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Klopp with insight on the amount of time required to create an effective attacking spear. IMO you will never have the required time on an international team. A national team requires a standard simplified scheme that is not dependant of a synchronized, well-drilled roster.

    Liverpool forward Mohamed Salah's poor form in front of goal are down to the club no longer having the "well-drilled" front three that caused problems for defences in the past, manager Jurgen Klopp said.
    ...
    "Of course, Mo is suffering. It was a well-drilled machine the front three, everything was clear [in] what we were doing. Everybody suffers from that, that's clear," Klopp told reporters.
    "It is specific, offensive play that requires a lot of work and a lot of information, and not always obvious information. You create a feeling about a lot of these things, about where your teammate is and where to pass the ball without looking."


    https://www.espn.com/soccer/liverpo...liverpools-front-three-no-longer-well-drilled
     
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  3. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Over time the attackers can learn about each other like Donovan and Dempsey, say. However, it will not matter if the midfield is unbalanced and sluggish like MMA.
     
  4. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    Telemundo says that US Soccer is considering Bielsa:

     
  5. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Bielsa would've been great as a coach to build up the program during the previous cycle.
     
  6. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    Don’t want Bielsa unless he changes his defensive philosophy
     
  7. theboogeyman

    theboogeyman Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    He’s a stubborn sob, so I’m pretty sure you don’t want him.

    he’d be a terrible hire for what we are hoping to accomplish, IMO.
     
  8. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What I’m guessing is that Sportsology is reaching out to potential candidates to reach interest, with the idea that once a potential sporting director takes over they can give them a list of coaches who have been contacted and who are interested in the job. And then the sports director can take the hiring process from there.

    So any outreach to Biesla (if it happened) was probably along those lines and to get a sense of what he would require in salary and what not.
     
  9. Boysinblue

    Boysinblue Member

    Jul 31, 2011
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like the "Telemundo report" is this
    https://www.telemundodeportes.com/futbol/el-destino-de-marcelo-bielsa-es-estados-unidos

    Google translate:
    Searching for Bleacher Report Marcelo Bielsa USMNT yields an article from 2011 and "The 5 Best Options for USMNT Head Coach Ahead of the 2026 World Cup":
    https://www.bleacherreport.com/arti...-usmnt-head-coach-ahead-of-the-2026-world-cup
     
  10. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    I think you're right. Telemundo botched that.
     
  11. Eddie Stiel

    Eddie Stiel Member

    Sep 27, 2011
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    The stated plan to hire a new coach by the end of the summer means the interim coach will lead the helm for meaningful competitions, Nations League and Gold Cup. Has the US ever done this before? This situation is a far cry from the year after failing to qualify for Russia with Sarachan in a caretaker role for friendlies, only to hire Berhalter when he was already available.

    This approach disrespects the program. I hope it is just talk, and a "permanent" hire is imminent.
     
  12. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    I believe that the last time an interim coach (who also happened to be an assistant coach for the prior manager) was in charge of the USMNT for competitive fixtures was Steve Sampson in 1995, when he led the US to a US Cup trophy and a 4th place finish in that year's Copa America. That helped him earn a permanent position.
     
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  13. Papin

    Papin BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 19, 1998
    le côté obscur
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That was such a great performance by the U.S. at the '95 Copa America. The 3-0 drubbing of Argentina was particularly beautiful.
     
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  14. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wasn’t Bob Bradley initially named interim coach to give them time to try and close the deal with Klinsmann? My recollection was that he got the full time gig after negotiations with Klinsmann fell through.
     
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  15. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    He was, but the person I was responding to was asking if we've ever had an interim coach lead the helm for meaningful competitions. Bradley got the interim tag removed after two friendly windows, before we played any meaningful competitive games.
     
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  16. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think teams that have the same players for multiple cycles can also do this. I remember how good the trip of Cavani, Suarez and Forlan looked together. We have trouble against a lot of C American teams that have a lot of players having played together for 10-15 years because their pool is small they don't change players often. US was sort of like that before MLS when they played exibitions around the world and were much better as a team than their talent.
     
  17. dna77054

    dna77054 Member+

    Jun 28, 2003
    houston
    I would disagree, It may depend on the manager and the NT player pool. Bielsa and then Sampaoli certainly had Chile playing as a synchronized well drilled team with a good attacking spear.
     
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  18. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    why cant the leadership council just pick a new manager?
     
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  19. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pipedream:

    TD: Ralf Rangnick
    Coach: Joachim Löw
     
  20. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rangnick is coaching Austria. You’d could pair Low with Bierhoff who got fired as Germany’s technical director.
     
  21. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Familiarity certainly helps no question but a simple scheme is even more important. Uruguay played a very simple, vanilla 4-4-2 which is why they were so successful. No complex read-progression schemes or morphing formations.
     
  22. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If this slate of tournaments and competitions over a span of just 3 years can't entice a big time coach to come to the US, maybe nothing ever will...

    1. 2026 World Cup (host)
    2. 2024 Copa America (host)
    3. 2024 Olympics
    4. 2025 Confederations Cup (host)
    5. 2025-6 Nations League
    6. 2025 Gold Cup (host, usually the lesser GC, but WC is a year later and no qualifying)
    7. 2022-3 Nations League
    8. 2023 Gold Cup (host)
    9. 2023 U-20 World Cup
    10. 2025 U-20 World Cup
    11. 2023 Pan American Games

     
  23. Kirium

    Kirium Member

    Jun 18, 2007
    Edmond, OK

    Is Confed cup happening?
     
  24. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It sounds like something is happening but it's an open question as to whether if it's the Confed Cup, an expanded Gold Cup with guest teams, or something else.
     
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  25. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What was complex about Bielsa's and Sampaoli's Chile scheme? It was essentially a very simple high tempo motion on offense and aggressive press with man marking principles on defense and they had/selected 3 lunged warrior-players to pull it off. It is no secret that Chile's decline coincided with the decline of Alexi Sanchez and Arturo "The Piranha" Vidal!

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