The DeSantis Thread (aka Florida Man 2)

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  1. MelbaToast

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    Go get 'em, Ron!
     
  2. dapip

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    I think he meant that we're fvcked both ways, by the Democrats' ineptitude and the GQP aggressive disenfranchising...
     
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  3. soccernutter

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    In part, yes. But the RP was also very effective at getting Latinos in the conspiracies the GOP loves.
     
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  4. Val1

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    Sheesh. I know many kids who went to school who haven't learned that.

    I'm a big fan of homeschooling, and I say that as the son and husband of teachers, and who got certified to teach. Part of it is that I'm all for kids and parents who don't want to be in public schools not being there. I'm glad there are other options.

    I have four friends who were very successfully home schooled, two of them all through high school. It's a harder road to hoe, to be sure, but none of the parents had education backgrounds.

    The home schooled kids I know are maturen and inquisitive. I've long thought that one of the internet's greatest positives is that it makes it easier to succeed as an educator. Just a lot of resources out there. Also, it's made it easier for parents to organize. In my rural podunk town, parents/kids put on one heck of a play. And those guys get to perform on the same stage that Clarence Clemons, Joni Mitchell, Flock of Seagulls and Roger Wakeling all performed on.

    And heaven help many a kid with learning or emotional issues. We were able to afford private school for my son, but if not,.we'd have homeschooled him.
     
  5. Kazuma

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    I have a degree in humanities and I'm not smart enough to be making decisions re: school. I might ask questions, I'm nowhere near qualified enough to think I have a legitimate say in education matters.

    Crazy thing is half these fools railing against education don't even have kids in the education system.
     
  6. dapip

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    I was going to say that. Some of the most fervent participants in those debates have no skin in the game, as they love to say. I remember in Virginia, some of the people that went to the school boards meetings were part of the J6 mob, others were known political activists, and most of them were from outside the area and/or didn't have kids in the schools.
     
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  7. Sounders78

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    I'm not specifically because I get a lot of home-schooled kids who are worse than clueless when it comes to human evolution. I spend a lot of time deconstructing what they learned in "homeschool" because it is so biologically wrong. And then I have to deal with their crisis of faith.
     
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  8. xtomx

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    Gonzalo Higuain has retired.
    I guess you can blame Josef Martinez now!

    I suppose you could blame the Orlando DPs, but I have no idea who they are since Nani left.
     
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  9. Auriaprottu

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    My opposition to it is generally related to the reason the parent is homeschooling. If it's for religious reasons, that shit's a non-starter- never, ever justifiable unless the kid is being bullied for a non-mainstream faith.

    What happens as often as it doesn't, in my own experience, is the kid comes to me woefully miseducated on scientific stuff and often about the age of the earth. I had to shut down a geechee SOB in postsecondary because he wanted to assert (in the middle of a sentence from me) that the true age of the planet was 6K years. In the ********ing middle of MY sentence. MY sentence. I don't deal with dissent in my classes very often, but when I do, I crush it like a grape. "Son, you need to go to Oakwood if you truly believe that stuff. And you need to stay on campus, because nobody wants that ignorance spread around the city. We're done here, there will be no response from you. We're moving forward"
     
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  10. Auriaprottu

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    Tired of that shit.
     
  11. Pønch

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    Half of them don't have ovaries either, but won't hesitate a second before telling a woman how to deal with hers.
     
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  12. superdave

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    So long as weed is legal in 11 months and 12 days, I’m good.
     
  13. superdave

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    Link please

    and not this one

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    Y’all better not bitch about Flock being on this list. Wishing and Photograph are incredible songs, and Ran So Far Away is pretty great and also a cultural touchstone.
     
  14. soccernutter

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    That, to me, is a parenting problem. Parents need - NEED - to be in line with teachers. And the reverse, is true, too. But how many parent reach out to their teachers to ask about their student? In my experience, very few. Was I great at communicating with parents? Nope, not my strength. But I did make an effort, and the payoff was not great. I had multiple conversation with parents in which I wanted to say "Look, pay attention to your kid. I know it's hard, but it is a must, and if done, your kid will do better. I say that because I want to work with you, not tell you want to do, or have you tell me what do to." Frustrating.
    And I speak with experience on all sides of that. My parents didn't work with teachers until it became a discipline problem. I never worked well in a group because I was never encouraged to do so outside of school. And I had so many students not want to work in groups because they didn't know how (this is were free play in groups comes in).

    I have met and know some who have been (are) homeschooled. And I have bumped into a few parents whose kids would benefit from homeschooling if they had the time. As for the prior, it is a mixed bag, and often it is based on the self-motivation by the student and the purposeful intent by the parent, at the same time. With that said, there are very few parents who can properly teach their kids though middle school, even with online recourses. There is a reason teachers from middle school on up are SMEs.


    No, no, no, no, no, no. It makes it easier for people to think they can succeed as an educator. Education is far, far more than learning a subject, or even writing an essay. It is as much about sharing ideas as learning what is assigned. For example, a lesson about the Bill of Rights I would do for my government class was to have the students list all the things they were allowed to do, or required to do, and what their consequences were. Then they shared those in class. Then, as a class, I had them think about which of the amendments their thing applied to. I had things said from taking out the trash to washing dishes to school uniforms and once I had a student say sex (consequence was pregnancy). Once the class got going, they figured out things pretty quickly, but there were a lot of "oh, yeah" and "but why?" That won't occur in most home schools. That is almost impossible to teach online.

    THIS is the #1 reason to increase funding for schools. Wealthier districts have parents who have access to this stuff. But the further down the SES you go, the greater the need and the lower the available funds for those students. Hell, fund enough to get the student:teacher ratio down to 15:1 or lower, and a lot of those issues are far more easily managed. Hell, my first semester of teaching, I had multiple students who were ELL (similar to special ed in that they need specialized instruction/lessons). The students in the larger classes got lost, mostly because I didn't have the experience/support/time. But I had one class that was maybe 12:1 with 5 ELL students. Because it was smaller, it allowed me more time to work with them, both 1v1 and purposefully as a class. And I learned that at least 3 of the students were undocumented. I took that experience to future classes where I had special ed students. A little tweak here and there, but it worked. But I also had additional support because of the school I was in (non-profits with greater funding).
     
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  15. Sounders78

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    Good grief, get with the times. It's been legal here over a decade now.
     
  16. bigredfutbol

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    Recreational use is already legal here in Virginia. Retail sales will be legal the beginning of next year.
     
  17. superdave

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    Ron DeSantis has banned AP African American studies classes from Florida high schools.
     
  18. Sounders78

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    To paraphrase:
    First they came for gays and I did not speak out because I was not gay
    Then they came for blacks and I did not speak out because I was not black ...
     
  19. onefineesq

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    T-minus 5 months and 4 days in Maryland.
     
  20. soccernutter

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    Education thread.
     
  21. Kazuma

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    Us, in Michigan, legal since 2018.
     
  22. BocaFan

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    Add 12 to 18 months to that before you can actually walk into a legal shop and buy the stuff.
     
  23. Bootsy Collins

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    It's understandable. AP African American Studies is just part of the woke mob’s insistence on brainwashing the youth with things like ‘classes,’ ‘books,’ and ‘school.’
     
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  24. The Jitty Slitter

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  25. xtomx

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    Groomers.
     

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