The Education Thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by saosebastiao, Jan 4, 2008.

  1. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a small town in rural Nebraska (albeit an atypically growing/affluent one compared to most small towns in the Plains) so keep that in mind.
     
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  2. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
    From the outside looking in, I'd argue that COVID was the breaking point for a lot of unsustainable pressures. The profession has been underfunded and overworked, and under siege from culture warriors and anti-government/anti-public sector politicians for a long time.

    BUT--I may not fully appreciate how much COVID (and the horrible public policy decisions in response) changed the landscape all on it's own.

    It's telling that in places like Florida, Republicans are addressing this crisis largely of their own making through new recruitment practices rather than focusing on retainment. They're actually not sorry at all that they've chased so many professional educators out of the profession--I don't think they see this as a crisis at all. It's an opportunity to continue dismantling public education.

    soccernutter states this more succinctly:

     
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  3. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    It’s interesting that some politicians do quite well with wages and retirement benefits. Prolly because they vote for them.
    Then they vote for teachers salary’s.
     
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  4. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    What is our children learning?

     
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  5. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My Alma Mater
     
  6. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Sounds about right. It always surprises me how many voters are fine with Republicans demonizing teachers. Democrats don't call out occupations that don't vote for them. You won't hear Democratic poliiticians insult cattle ranchers, or truck drivers, or Baptist ministers. But Republican politicians don't have any problem publicly attacking their fellow Americans, and Republican voters, who claim to be patriotic, don't have any problem watching and hearing their fellow Americans be attacked.

    As you can gather from how I phrase that, I doubt their patriotism. If you only love the half of the country that shares your political views, then you're not actually a patriot.

    At any rate, yes I can see why teachers have had enough.
     
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  7. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
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    Atlanta
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    --other--
    Teachers- the only other adults who have a clue about how shitty a parent you are. That's really what this is about.
     
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  8. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    :ROFLMAO:
     
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  9. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
  10. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    Hasidic schools are garbage. About the only thing they do with any competence is spread polio.
     
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  11. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And measles.
     
  12. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
    Right, but they’re doing it with public money. Don’t they have to deliver education? Aren’t they audited?
     
  13. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
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  14. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    It turns out that the conservatives are correct. The government should not be funding private enterprises.
     
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  15. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Thank God that's not a madrassah (sp?).

    The shit that hit that particular fan would get on everything.
     
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  16. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
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    Atlanta
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    --other--
    Just drop the H.

    Yes, it absolutely would. I'm leaning toward a Muslim school not really being able to be overlooked.
     
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  17. raza_rebel

    raza_rebel Member+

    Dec 11, 2000
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    The problem for politicians who want to take on the Hasidic community on this or any topic is that they get high voter turnout and tend to vote as a block (I remember reading this a few years ago regarding the 2020 election). That makes them a group many local politicians don't want to rub the wrong way.
     
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  18. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Young voters would get so many more goodies if they operated the same way, instead of complaining that the politicians don't speak to their generation.
     
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  19. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Mormons used to vote in a block a century ago, and were a big reason why they were pushed from town-to-town, as they would migrate en masse and quickly overrun local politics.

    In Utah, as they were trying for statehood in the late 1800s, Mormons leaders told congregations to vote in federal elections for parties based on whether they sat on the pews on the left or right.

    Since Reagan, and Ezra Taft Benson, Mormons in Utah probably vote consistently over 2/3rds GOP all the time, every time. Utah is also making a big push to make it easier to send kids to charter schools, where they most often get shit education, while at the same time starving public education of much needed funds and students.

    Carson v. Makin ruling last year just made this easier.

    Mormon kids were (and maybe still are?) allowed to skip a class per term in order to attend seminary as an elective, which is located right next to many/most public high schools. It seems to me like many of these seminaries are being phased out, but I'm not certain what the status and reason for this is exactly. (I attended Mormon seminary for a couple of years, starting in 9th grade, finally deciding to do early morning classes so I could take all the academic classes I wanted. Imade it 1.5months in the early class before deciding it was a complete waste of time.)
     
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  20. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    So the big resignation is still a thing:

     
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  21. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  22. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
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  23. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
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    Chicago Fire
    This, exactly.
     
  24. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    In the article there was one quote I particularly enjoyed:

    Apparently, if you're a single mother, your child is not part of your family. If you aren't married but have been together for 20 years, those biological children of yours are not part of your family.

    The utter stupidity of these people never ceases to amaze me.

    If they really want to ban a book, I know one that has stories about a sister having sex with her brother, the latter is a heroic figure in the story and is related to another man who impregnated his two daughters. You'd think they'd want that book banned too, but no they actually want the children to read it because it's the Bible.
     
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  25. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is not just anti-LGBTQ+. It includes a book on poverty and racism. But it is easier to make people afraid of LGBTQ+. It is a White Christian Heterosexual Supremacy effort.
     
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