2030 World Cup

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  1. PabloSanDiego

    PabloSanDiego Member+

    West Ham United
    United States
    Jan 18, 2014
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't see any big problem, especially with 48 teams IMHO there are plenty of spots to go around.

    But I'm just saying that it's not like how things have been with 31 spots confirmed (w/ 2 playoffs) and the host getting the automatic 32nd spot. As these different sets of hosts happen FIFA will need to decide what the allotments are. And that will cause complaints from some confederations and their fans who will think they've been shorted.

    I suppose one solution is they could just lay out allotments for all 48 spots and the host countries that get the automatic bids are just subtracted from each confederation's allotment. Maybe that's how it'll be.
     
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  2. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I think this is what has already been agreed or close to being agreed(?). So, for e.g. in 2026 CONCACAF would get 3 (hosts) + 3 (what remains from their regular allotment of 6) + 2 playoffs (including extra playoff spot for host confederation).

    And then in 2030 CONCACAF would still get 6 guaranteed spots + 1 playoff. The only difference is that 6 teams would qualify by merit and they only get one playoff spot.

    I don't see much need to alter this formula. It works whether there is 1 country hosting or if you have something ridiculous like 5 countries co-hosting.
     
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  3. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    I think FIFA will leave it to the hosting confederation. What you've described is how it will work for 2026 and I think that will continue for the time being. All a confederation gets for hosting now is an extra playoff spot, not a full spot.
     
  4. Crawleybus

    Crawleybus Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    England should be given the World cup in 2030. I do realise I am English and therefore have some 'biased' however there are quite a few reasons why I think it should come here.

    1) Its due back in Europe I believe
    2) All the 'big' footballing Euro nations have had the World Cup since England and some countries in the world have had it TWICE since England!
    3) The stadia and all footballing facilities are already in place (lots of large modern stadiums already catering for Premier League football)
    4) Its a small country with an ideal climate for Summer football
    5) It is a VERY diverse country, it has communities from across the globe living in its cities
    6) Its a small country - no catching flights following your country!
    7) Plenty of beer!
    8) It has the highest attendances for football in the world
    9) As much as some people hate the fact it is the birthplace of the game
    10) The Premier League is (currently) the worlds most popular sporting league.
    11) Games between nations have used England as a neutral venue and they sell out - usually with ex-pats, When Jamaica play games in London they get bigger crowds attending that they get when they play in Jamaica!

    I don't see anywhere on the planet with so many positives for holding the World Cup but I doubt that FIFA will EVER give a World Cup to England though.
     
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  5. Real Mardin

    Real Mardin Member

    Galatasaray & Nottingham Forest
    Turkey
    Aug 22, 2019
    I agree with all of this but do you know England (or more precisely, the UK) has formally withdrawn from applying to host WC 2030 in favour of focusing on hosting Euro 2028?
     
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  6. Real Mardin

    Real Mardin Member

    Galatasaray & Nottingham Forest
    Turkey
    Aug 22, 2019
    Although having said the above I’ve since read that Portugal will only provide three stadiums and the Wikipedia entry for the Iberian bid states these will be the stadiums of Benfica, Porto and Sporting. If three is the limit I totally get why those particular stadiums would be used but it is a shame that the Estadio Algarve won’t get to host matches. It would spread the matches and World Cup cheer to the South of Portugal and the Algarve would be a great place to combine a holiday with attending World Cup matches.

    Can’t help but think the crude bolting on of Ukraine to the bid has cost the Algarve the opportunity to host games. Drop Ukraine and let’s all meet up for a summer football party in the Algarve! ⚽️ ☀️
     
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  7. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The birthplace of the rulebook, you mean?
     
  8. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    The modern game we love was born with the codification of the rules in the UK back in the 19th century. Various forms of similar games around the world can be regarded as ancestors of the modern game.
     
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  9. Doc_Exec

    Doc_Exec Member

    Jul 7, 2004
    With all that being said, England has withdrawn its bid to host the World Cup in 2030. They are focusing on Euro 2028, as they are fairly certain they will win that bid.
     
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  10. Crawleybus

    Crawleybus Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Yes because they realise that FIFA will never give them a World Cup.
     
  11. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Turkey and Morocco, the eternal bidding bridesmaids :x3:
     
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  12. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    I believe Turkey would have won the rights to host Euro 2020 if they hadn’t pulled out to try to get the 2020 Olympics.
     
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  13. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Yes, I thought back then they made a tactical mistake doing that.

    I hope Turkey is awarded euro2028 or euro 2032: the country deserves a major event.
     
  14. Doc_Exec

    Doc_Exec Member

    Jul 7, 2004
    Didn't Morocco try to join the Iberian bid for 2030, only for them to get snubbed in preference for Ukraine?
     
  15. Crawleybus

    Crawleybus Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    They need to 'up' their bribes.
     
  16. Real Mardin

    Real Mardin Member

    Galatasaray & Nottingham Forest
    Turkey
    Aug 22, 2019
    It wasn’t quite like that, by the time Turkey withdrew UEFA had already moved the goalposts by changing the format from one host nation to multiple host nations. What Turkey withdrew from was the bidding to host the semi finals and final of Euro 2020. They probably felt accepting those three matches might have weakened a future bid to host the Euros in 2024 - 2032, which I get entirely.
     
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  17. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    I remember it as Turkey and Azerbaijan being the two bidders. But since the IOC would not allow a bidding city/country to host another major sporting event the same year as the Olympics, Turkey decided to put its eggs in the Olympic basket.
    It was at this point when UEFA brought up the Pan-Euro.
    That’s how I recall it, anyway. I always felt Turkey would have hosted Euro 2020 had they not gone for the 2020 Olympics.
    There must be timeline of events somewhere.
     
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  18. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    The first time UEFA made public the idea of a cross-continent euro2020 was on 30 June 2012, the day before the euro2012 final.

    The 2020 Olympics were awarded to Tokyo in September 2013, so presumably Turkey had already decided to opt for Istanbul's Olympic bid over a bid for euro2020 before UEFA first announced the possibility of there not being a typical host of euro2020.
     
  19. NaBUru38

    NaBUru38 Member+

    Mar 8, 2016
    Las Canteras, Uruguay
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    Honestly, I would prefer Spain/Portugal/Ukraine to host the 2023 World Cup.

    Uruguay and Argentina should instead host an 8-team Mundialito in March.
     
  20. Gibraldo

    Gibraldo Member+

    radnicki nis
    Serbia
    Nov 17, 2005
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    come on...how can you plan to have a world cup 2030 in a country that is in the midst of a war right now.

    no one could guarantee, that there is no war in the Ukraine in 2030.
     
  21. Gobernador Blanco

    Chicago Fire
    Mexico
    Jul 30, 2022
    Upper Midwest
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I’ve got a bad feeling that goofy Saudi Arabia bid with Egypt and Greece as the sidekicks will win the bid. Saudi Arabia is throwing massive amounts of money left and right on sporting investment all over the globe. Fifa will always come to the middle eastern money trough
     
  22. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't want to wade too far into politics here... but I'd be shocked if the Russian people, political elite, military brass, etc. had the stomach for such a prolonged conflict.

    "What about Afghanistan?" Fair, but it was far enough away and with enough distractions (Iraq, the 2008 recession, Obama and then Trump) for the general US public to relegate our continued presence there to our mental back-burner.
     
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  23. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If it were the FIFA Council deciding, I'd agree... but winning votes among the whole of the FIFA Congress is, at the very least, much more expensive.
     
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  24. Gobernador Blanco

    Chicago Fire
    Mexico
    Jul 30, 2022
    Upper Midwest
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I wonder if this new concacaf conmebol partnership comes with the unwritten agreement that concacaf is expected to vote for the South American bid. That would be a rare case of corruption I would support
     
  25. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Very interesting observation, you might be on to something there!
     
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