Ukraine v Russia II

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  1. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    United States
    I am One Million Percent certain that everyone in a decision making role in every meaningful* European nation already knew this was happening.

    *Maybe the defense secretary for Andorra or San Marino don't know.
     
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  2. marek

    marek Member+

    Lechia Gdańsk
    Jun 27, 2000
    Club:
    OSP Lechia Gdansk
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    when is Britain gonna send in their leppards?

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  3. Canada has tanks???
    What for?
     
  4. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Situations like Article 5 of NATO, when the US invoked it. Over 40 000 soldiers were deployed during the entire invasion of Afghanistan, mainly in Kandahar.
     
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  5. Ah, of course. Was thinking only about domestic use.
     
  6. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
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    Moose. Herds and herds of Moose.
    Oh, and bears.

    And, worst of all...Americans!
     
  7. I thought they learned their lesson in 1813
    [​IMG]https://theweek.com › articles › 473482 › americas-invasion-canada-brief-history
    America's invasion of Canada: A brief history | The Week
    On the evening of June 21, 1813, Laura Secord overheard American officers billeted at her home, in Queenston, Ontario, plotting a raid on a nearby British outpost. The 37-year-old mother of five...
    [​IMG]https://www.history.com › news › how-u-s-forces-failed-to-conquer-canada-200-years-ago
    How U.S. Forces Failed to Conquer Canada 200 Years Ago
    The United States' first foray into Canada occurred at the beginning of the American Revolutionary War, when colonial troops marched all the way to Quebec City before being repelled. By the time...
     
  8. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
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    United States
    Canada only has 82 Leopards, so that is 5% of their tank force.. 5% isn’t that out of line with what other countries are donating.
     
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  9. Iirc we Dutch are sending eleven Leppards. That's because we stick to 4-3-3 with the point forwards.
     
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  10. marek

    marek Member+

    Lechia Gdańsk
    Jun 27, 2000
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    OSP Lechia Gdansk
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
     
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  11. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

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    Great movie. Hey, @Deadtigers , ever watch this one? A lot of familiar scenes along Niagara River and Parkway. Of course, that was 35 yrs ago. When John Candy drives into Toronto, he marvels at how clean it is and the lack of litter. It isn't as sparkly, these days.
     
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  12. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’ve seen numbers where Netherlands is donating all 18 of their Leopards.. but then, they don’t actually own the tanks. Rather they lease them from Germany.
     
  13. Yup, we told the Germans we want to buy them and then donate them to Ukraine.
     
  14. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
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    Manchester United FC
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    I havent seen it in over a decade so my memory is fuzzy. I remember that scene and the irony in it. I also remember how the graffiti truck was fine for not have the graffiti in French too.
     
  15. The other 7 are on the bench, we stick to 4-3-3. No matter what. Russians bunker? 4-3-3.
    Russians attack 4-3-3 in the counter.
     
  16. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    #7016 Robert Borden, Jan 26, 2023
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    South Africa seems all in with Russia. First diplomatically and economically

    Now militarily with also China alarming the US


    Victoria Nuland wants to "charm" India into changing camp... after retaliating against them for purchasing S400.
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    Best keep an eye to your neighbor Mexico
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    And Brazil with Argentina are leading an effort to eject the US dollar with their own currency

    And are rejecting the OAS, Canada and the US with the CELAC inviting Xi at the summit
    https://english.news.cn/20230125/ba9f362ebfd24fc2a437637e99a51e05/c.html
     
  17. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Oh no!!! :eek:
     
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  18. marek

    marek Member+

    Lechia Gdańsk
    Jun 27, 2000
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    OSP Lechia Gdansk
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    Poland
    are you gonna end up the same way you do in the World Cup?
     
  19. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Some movement on the frozen Russian assets
    EU to examine seizing confiscated Russian assets for reconstruction | Financial Times (ft.com)
    • Brussels suggested the underlying assets would not be permanently confiscated under the plan, but would be returned to the Russian state* if a peace agreement were signed.
    *with interest

    Switzerland is resisting this as according to Swiss Economy Minister Guy Parmelin, such an action would be a serious violation of the law. There are huge risks with this plan but temporarily confiscating the assets and returning it later could be somewhat of a viable compromise.
     
  20. The Swiss arenot EU members, so what should they care about the EU internal plans?
     
  21. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
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  22. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
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    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    Still hurts
     
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  23. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    We were assuming the French recon vehicles and British Challenger II's were meant to shame Germany into releasing the Leopards. But maybe Germany sending Leopards was supposed to shame someone else...

    Today Poland said they would send almost a hundred PT-91's. This is really important because these can be integrated into Ukrainian forces without big changes to logistics or doctrine, but have the benefits of modern sensors. The general consensus seems to be that there will be a big Russian offensive before the big Ukrainian offensive, so there is a need for something that can strengthen Ukrainian defenses within a month, two tops.
     
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