News: Fire Berhalter

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  1. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    nope. parroting? no.

    If you go back and review my posting history ...I have said a lot of the things I said a long time ago, presciently.....just dont have the inclination to go back and toot my own horn

    for instance, I wouldve taken taylor booth to qatar....and I said it Before the WC roster was announced....pretty sure wynalda has never even discussed taylor booth on the usmnt, for example.

    and now look...hes made team of the week/player of the month subsequently.

    one of the hugest reasons I dont like what berhalter did ...is that he left soo much talent off team, at home, on the bench, unintegrated....


    the talent level of the actual players berhalter used vs the possible talent level of all players he couldve used/brough to qatar had a huge and consequential differential, imo

    the first 11 almost wrote itself but 12-26 mattered a lot and berhalter got it so wrong for his roster for the qatar WC....its a firable offense....he just messed up in too many ways to even stay in the conversation
     
  2. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    who knows more about soccer: dortmund or gregggy??
     
  3. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who cares??? Gregg is no longer the coach of the USMNT. It's time all you dweebs moved on.
     
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  4. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://www.espn.com/soccer/united-...earnie-stewart-exit-leaves-leadership-in-flux

    Cone added that Berhalter "remains a candidate" to return as manager.

    Uggh...how is this even possible?

    Cone said she hoped to fill the positions of sporting director and USMNT manager "by the end of the summer." She later clarified her remarks to say that she hoped to have the sporting director position filled before the 2023 FIFA Women's World Cup. The sporting director, once hired, will drive the decision on a new USMNT manager.

    Yet again, the needs of the USMNT are backseat to the women's team under the leadership of Cone....why would the women's world cup be a roacdmarker on the timeline for a new coach?

    what do these people even do every day?

    why does it take 6 months to hire a coach?

    hudson for 6 months is inconceivable imo
     
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  5. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
  6. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Because someone threatened USSF if they rehired him, and now they have to legally keep him in the pool to avoid a lawsuit.

    They've hired a consulting company to re-evaluate the org and suggest a Sporting Director and do a prelim coaching search.

    I suspect that work will take a couple of months, and then signing the Sporting Director another if the target is available and ready to leave their job (which may not be until end of June if they are employed).

    Then you hire a coach with the same issues.
     
  7. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    personally, i think it makes some sense to offer gregg a short contract in light of all thats going on...

    so we can fire him.
     
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  8. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    This would be the same level of mistake that feeding a stray dog is. If you encourage them they just keep turning up and become almost impossible to get rid of.

    I think USA Soccer should have no more contact with Gregg Berhalter or the rest or the Berhalter cult.
    The USA was set back by 8 - 10 years by Gregg Berhalter and the rest of his cronies.
     
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  9. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    I wanted a new hire but I won’t mind if Berhalter is back just so I can laugh at the meltdowns.
     
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  10. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    if they are going to re-hire berhalter, they should do it now.

    letting the team drift leaderless for 6 months only to bring berhalter back woud be beyond asinine.

    is berhalter really going to just chill and stay available for the next 6 months waiting for his chacne to resume?

    I think he will...but its just all so weird.
     
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  11. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yet another example of terrible man management from Gregg Berhalter. Tim Ream felt so disconnected from the NT he considered turning down the offer.



    Now that its pretty clear berhalter wont be back players can start being honest about how bad he is,,,,,I expect a lot more of these types of quotes....
     
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  12. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    And yet Ream accepted and praised how unified the team was, management included.
     
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  13. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    I have no problem with Hudson managing in the March Nations League matches, but a new US manager needs to be in place by the June matches.
     
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  14. ytrs

    ytrs Member+

    Jan 24, 2018
     
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    ytrs Member+

    Jan 24, 2018
     
  16. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When did Ream say he considered turning down the offer? Not in that clip.

    Considering he did accept the call and ended up performing well, I'd say that's pretty good man management.
     
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  17. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He basically said he had mentally checked out of the national team and when he got the call-up, he wasn’t sure that Gregg and his staff actually believed he would be useful. This suggested Ream did not want to attend as a Roldan guy at the end of the bench, but only if he had a chance to contribute. He didn’t accept the call up immediately but had to sleep on it.
     
  18. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah zero chance USSF waits until summer to hire a coach but then goes back to Gregg. That would look terrible for all involved, including Gregg.
     
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  19. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    but he is also the only candidate at this point so he kind of is the coach
     
  20. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    happy as I am that gregg isnt coach.....its because I dont want his system in place

    this hudson 433 is such a poor setup for this pool, imo

    what is it now??? 4 goals in the last 8 matches?

    seems gregg picked the roster and lineups for jan camp too

    ugggh
     
  21. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  22. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    And yet you created a new anti-Berhalter thread yesterday.
     
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  23. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    People who do those kinds of things do not realize that it reflects more on them than it does on the object of their object of obsession.

    Doesn’t seem like a good trade to me.
     
  24. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    #3499 NietzscheIsDead, Feb 1, 2023
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2023
    That team underperformed and Reyna looked disconnected from his teammates on the field.

    I remember watching that and wondering how a player with those kinds of tools could be so disconnected and being flummoxed at how he made his team worse, not better.

    That U-17 squad had some decent players including Bello, Hernandez-Foster, Scally, Kayo, and Pepi and they got absolutely wiped. They scored in the first 3 minutes of the first game and then got scored on 8 times. Their only point came in a 0-0 draw sandwiched between an opening 4-1 drubbing against Senegal and a 4-0 slaughter to the Netherlands.

    I am shocked that Berhalter, who was essentially his uncle, called the Reyna show to the carpet and prevented it from wrecking the World Cup squad. Ballsy stuff.

    Like I said previously, if Gio grows out of this he will credit Berhalter for making him grow up.
     
  25. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    oh my...you are now giving credit to berhalter for how he handled gio?
     

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