Time for a new "Yet Another Mass Shooting Thread"

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  1. Mike03

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    And woke M&Ms
     
  2. soccernutter

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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
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    I'm assuming this is snark and not serious. I say that because there are a hell of a lot of people who are gun owners who want restrictions/regulations far more than there are. There are multiple of them in this corner of BS.

    And what a ********ing cowardly company they are. If you don't know why the rant, read up on their Superbowl add change.
     
  3. soccernutter

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    Aug 22, 2001
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    I'll say it because nobody else has - ******** OFF!

    Speaking specifically on gun control, the Republicans and their co-conspiratorial organizations have been playing God damn ********ing dirty ever since the NRA stopped being a gun training organization. They don't give a ******** about safety or protection. It is about Whites having the right to kill Blacks. Or at least Whites being allowed to own guns and Blacks (and all POC) not. If you really, truthfully care, you'd not mock our position or question our views. It is about ********ing safety. Do you ********ing understand?
     
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  4. Sounders78

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    There's the "raging leftist!"

    Just like the hysterical women, drama queen gays, uppity blacks, etc., marek and his ilk demand that people not get upset or "step out of line" when they constantly punch you in the face. If you do get upset and tell them to stop, then they focus on the emotional response as "proof" that you don't use reason to respond to their "arguments". It's a tried and true tactic that white heterosexual males have used for ages.

    People on the right have the right to insult you, denigrate you, oppress you, etc. and people on the left have the right to take it. Any refusal to accept it makes you a "raging leftist" or the equivalent subcategory.
     
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  5. BocaFan

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    Not defending marek, but there are definitely some raging leftists out there. The quantity and scale of carnage they leave behind is probably not comparable, but its really not that difficult to get some far leftists outraged.
     
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  6. Sounders78

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    Definitely not comparable. I don't know of anyone who rages more often and more about anything than Trump and Tucker.
     
  7. Auriaprottu

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    Apr 1, 2002
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    IF they rage, leftists are raging about the right to terminate an unwanted pregnancy, not the right to own a Varon-T disruptor for their truck and to drag Black folks behind said truck

    Lefties leave behind no carnage at all, Cletus. And don't stumble back up in here talking about homeless idiot taking shits in front of City Hall in San Fran. Those people got no party.
     
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  8. BocaFan

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    Well, pretty much everyone wants to terminate an unwanted pregnancy. That's a pretty bipartisan thing.
     
  9. Auriaprottu

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    Apr 1, 2002
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    They don't all prepare for the possibility the same way. Dems understand that condoms break, that women get raped, that IUDs don't always work, Norplant doesn't always work, and that nobody needs a baby these days. So they advocate for safe abortions. Republicans go hold a shower and tell the girl she's gonna be a great mother- or the privileged ones fly to a different state or country where they can free themselves. Poor women ain't free.
     
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  10. argentine soccer fan

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    When I was growing up, the leftists in Argentina would encourage us kids to question authority. As I was studying economics, I began question the authorities that they followed (like Marx, Che Guevara etc.) and they didn't like the idea of questioning as much

    Granted, much of the left, particularly the so called left in the US, has evolved since those times, and they are not what one might call the raging (or radical) left. I wouldn't characterize most posters here as such. It's more like "left lite".
     
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  11. argentine soccer fan

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    It has nothing to do with him being Asian American. It turns out that it was an old male who apparently liked to dance but was an asshole to his dance partners so the people in their little dance click decided not to invite him to a dance party and he got extremely pissed. Maybe he has mental health issues.

    That could happen anywhere in the world, to a male of any race. The problem is that here in America he has easy access to deadly weapons, so it's easier to act on his irrational, possibly crazed, anger.
     
  12. superdave

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    Good point. Another difference is that in general, the progressives who shut down conversations are people with little to no power. On the other side, those folk are governors and senators and presidents.
     
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  13. superdave

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    You can bitch and get angry, or you can employ the ignore button.
     
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  14. argentine soccer fan

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    Right. Just like we shrug and accept the increasing homeless population that we see every morning as part of the landscape on our way to work.
     
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  15. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Now we should mention how country club Republicans of our yoot turned into full Trumpy fascists.
     
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  16. argentine soccer fan

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    We didn't have the Republican party where I grew up. But certainly I know people from that time who turned fascist, and that was long before Trump even became a factor.
     
  17. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Well every SA country has a fascist equivalent, right?
     
  18. JohnR

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    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    I won't go there in this thread, because it's for mass shooting, but you raise a valid point that is worth discussing.
     
  19. bigredfutbol

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    It's clear to me that for many self-described progressives, being perpetually aggrieved is central to their identity. It's why so many of them are personally unpleasant, and why they tend to prefer politicians who win social media debates vs. elections.

    It's an extremely asymmetrical dialectic, for sure.

    I definitely think mass shootings are related to a very specific mental health* issue--rage and anger, coupled with entitlement.


    *Not a "mental illness" but rather a matter of well-being.
     
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  20. argentine soccer fan

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    Yeah, we do, and i think it’s not different outside of South America.
     
  21. argentine soccer fan

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    Right. The point is, as a society we are good at accepting the unacceptable.
     
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  22. JohnR

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    While I think that is fair, at the same time there is a difference in the two situations. There is an easy and obvious solution to reducing mass shootings -- a solution that almost every other developed country has adopted. It's right there in front of us, but as a society we refuse to take it. Whereas if there is an easy and obvious solution to homelessness, I am not aware of it.
     
  23. argentine soccer fan

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    It's an obvious solution, but not an easy one, given how American culture and politics have evolved. It seems to me that it's a very difficult solution to implement.


    That doesn't mean that we shouldn't strive to implement it. Our representatives should be making this issue a priority, and we should make sure that they know that's our expectation if they want our support. For all practical purposes, politicians who become outraged when a shooting happens and then do nothing about it are no better than those who offer thoughts and prayers.
     
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  24. xtomx

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    Sep 6, 2001
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    I don't doubt that. In fact I am certain of it.

    Which is precisely why I asked the question.

    I wanted his view of who he considers a "raging leftist."

    His answer was just all of us. That is no answer at all.
     
  25. xtomx

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    Why not both?

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