Alert: KSA NT @ World Cup 2022

Discussion in 'Saudi Arabia' started by al ittihady, Apr 3, 2022.

  1. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    Al Malki with another serious injury
     
  2. Sa4lyfUk

    Sa4lyfUk New Member

    Liverpool FC
    Saudi Arabia
    Dec 1, 2022
    Please please let Abdulhamid leave for Ligue 1....he would end up in Marseille or Lyon with those amazing runs and end to end approach he has !!! Please ya sheikh whoever the chairman of Al hilal is let him go just for the experience if it goes bad then he can come back to hilal
     
  3. LandingMines

    LandingMines New Member

    Al Hilal
    Saudi Arabia
    Dec 23, 2022
    looks like it’s unlikely Al-Hilal would agree even with the 16 million riyal fee.

    Saud makes about 4 million riyals a year right now, his salary would likely be in half if he moves to France. I doubt the agent would even advice him to move.
     
  4. LandingMines

    LandingMines New Member

    Al Hilal
    Saudi Arabia
    Dec 23, 2022
    that’s rough. Hopefullly Al Khaibari is ready for 2026
     
  5. Sa4lyfUk

    Sa4lyfUk New Member

    Liverpool FC
    Saudi Arabia
    Dec 1, 2022
    Money isn't everything he has got the potential to be something big....he needs to understand he can end up in psg if Allah wills be earning like hakimi. Why'd anyone care about money being a Saudi, free house, 0% interest loans in cars, free education and healthcare. Even though Saudi have the potential to be better than Morocco and Egypt because of the facilities but we are lacking only because the players don't play abroad, I'm struggling to comprehend why's money more important? Saleh Al Shehri scores in big games not because of his skills its generally because he played and scored in Portuguese prem league
     
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  6. LandingMines

    LandingMines New Member

    Al Hilal
    Saudi Arabia
    Dec 23, 2022
    these guys have about 10 years or so before the money start to dry up. They can get career ending injury any time and just like that they’ll be in division 2. I understand the decision even though it’s not a brave one.

    Even if Saud Wanted, it’s possible his agent already convinced him not to go.
     
  7. LandingMines

    LandingMines New Member

    Al Hilal
    Saudi Arabia
    Dec 23, 2022
    Plus there is so many things to consider like family and culture. Soccer is not everything. I really don’t have any issues with Saud not wanting to go.

    now if he was offered and increase salary etc - it will makes sense but if he moves now..he’s putting himself in so much pressure
     
  8. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    All thanks to rushing him to NT during WC without him being tested for big games. Really sad ending for his career looking at his potential. I have never seen any player with double ACL injury giving back his best when returning. He will be offloaded soon.
     
  9. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    He will surely go if the big bosses want him to go and FA applies pressure too.
     
  10. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    What actually happened to Fahad Al Ghashiyaan? He was one of my favorite players.
     
  11. Sa4lyfUk

    Sa4lyfUk New Member

    Liverpool FC
    Saudi Arabia
    Dec 1, 2022
    What has happened to the team or they are fatigued because of Ramadan?
     
  12. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    Many players are auto selected which makes them play the way they want. As expected Renard departed and now the search for new coach starts again
     
  13. Kamtedrejt

    Kamtedrejt Member+

    Internazionale Milano
    Albania
    Mar 14, 2017
    Hamburg
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Albania
    AFC Nations Ecosystem Ranking

    https://kassiesa.net/uefa/forum2/viewtopic.php?t=6034



    I carried out some extensive research on the AFC nations and about where their programs stand right now. Here are the results:

    It's important to know that

    my grading system refers from 1 (lowest grade possible) to 10 (highest grade possible).

    NT form = national team form since the 2019 Asian Cup. Other than the Asian Cup, the World Cup qualifiers, the World Cup itself, the Gulf Cup, the AFF Championship and the Arab Cup 2021 are considered. Also friendlies for the lesser ranked nations who play less competitive matches.
    The weighting for "NT form" was 50%

    Youth = youth reusults in the last decade (last 8-10 years). Competitions taken into account include the U23 Asian Cup, U20 Asian Cup and the Asian Games as it's an U23 competition plus only three overage players. U17 results were not considered. A rating system was adopted to hand out points for a nation's final position in the final standings of each competition taken into account.
    The weighting for "youth" was 20%.

    Pedigree refers to a national team's results in the most important competitions since 2004 i.e. five World Cup cycles and five Asian Cup cycles are considered. Again competitions like the Gulf Cup and the AFF Champinship were taken into account. The weighting for "pedigree" was 20%

    Club success refers to a league's results in the two highest tier Asian club competitions i.e. AFC CL and AFC Cup since the 2016/2017 season. A rating system was developed in order to calculate a league's performance. Since the gap between first and second tier competition is big (probably bigger than in UEFA) my point system rewarded i.e. a quarterfinal run in the AFC CL more than winning the AFC Cup. The weighting for "club success" was only 10%.

    If two nations have the same overall grade the nation ranks first that has a better "NT form".


    Nation_____________________Grade


    1. Japan__________________9.90
    NT Form___________________10
    Youth______________________9.5
    Pedigree___________________10
    Club success_______________10

    2. South Korea____________9.30
    NT Form___________________9.0
    Youth______________________10
    Pedigree___________________9.0
    Club success_______________10

    3. Australia________________8.15
    NT Form___________________8.5
    Youth______________________8.0
    Pedigree___________________9.0
    Club success_______________5.0

    4. Iran____________________8.00
    NT Form___________________8.5
    Youth______________________6.5
    Pedigree___________________8.0
    Club success_______________8.5

    5. Saudi Arabia____________8.00
    NT Form___________________8.0
    Youth______________________8.5
    Pedigree___________________6.5
    Club success_______________10

    6. Qatar__________________7.05
    NT Form___________________7.5
    Youth______________________7.0
    Pedigree___________________6.0
    Club success_______________7.0

    7. Iraq____________________6.95
    NT Form___________________7.0
    Youth______________________8.5
    Pedigree___________________6.5
    Club success_______________4.5

    8. Uzbekistan_____________6.90
    NT Form___________________6.5
    Youth______________________9.5
    Pedigree___________________6.0
    Club success_______________5.5

    9. UAE____________________6.40
    NT Form___________________6.5
    Youth______________________7.0
    Pedigree___________________5.5
    Club success_______________6.5

    10. Jordan________________6.30
    NT Form___________________7.0
    Youth______________________6.5
    Pedigree___________________5.5
    Club success_______________4.0

    11. China_________________5.95
    NT Form___________________6.0
    Youth______________________5.5
    Pedigree___________________5.5
    Club success_______________7.5

    12. Bahrain_______________5.50
    NT Form___________________7.0
    Youth______________________2.5
    Pedigree___________________5.5
    Club success_______________4.0

    13. Vietnam______________5.40
    NT Form___________________6.0
    Youth______________________7.0
    Pedigree___________________4.0
    Club success_______________2.0


    14. Thailand______________5.35

    NT Form___________________6.0
    Youth______________________6.0
    Pedigree___________________3.5
    Club success_______________4.5

    15. North Korea___________5.30
    NT Form___________________5.0
    Youth______________________7.0
    Pedigree___________________5.5
    Club success_______________3.0

    16. Oman_________________4.95
    NT Form___________________7.0
    Youth______________________1.5
    Pedigree___________________4.5
    Club success_______________2.5

    17. Syria__________________4.80
    NT Form___________________5.5
    Youth______________________5.0
    Pedigree___________________4.0
    Club success_______________2.5

    18. Palestine______________3.65
    NT Form___________________5.0
    Youth______________________3.0
    Pedigree___________________2.0
    Club success_______________1.5

    19. Lebanon______________3.60
    NT Form___________________5.0
    Youth______________________1.0
    Pedigree___________________2.5
    Club success_______________4.0

    20. Malaysia______________3.60
    NT Form___________________4.5
    Youth______________________3.0
    Pedigree___________________2.0
    Club success_______________3.5

    21. Tajikistan_____________3.55
    NT Form___________________4.5
    Youth______________________4.0
    Pedigree___________________1.0
    Club success_______________3.0

    22. Kuwait________________3.40
    NT Form___________________4.5
    Youth______________________2.0
    Pedigree___________________3.0
    Club success_______________1.5

    23. Indonesia_____________3.15
    NT Form___________________3.5
    Youth______________________4.0
    Pedigree___________________2.0
    Club success_______________2.0

    24. Kyrgyzstan____________3.10
    NT Form___________________4.5
    Youth______________________1.5
    Pedigree___________________2.0
    Club success_______________1.5

    25. Turkmenistan__________3.05
    NT Form___________________4.0
    Youth______________________2.0
    Pedigree___________________2.0
    Club success_______________2.5

    26. India__________________3.00
    NT Form___________________4.0
    Youth______________________1.0
    Pedigree___________________2.0
    Club success_______________4.0

    IMO the highest ranked 17 nations can eye a place at the 2026 FIFA World Cup. Remember that with the expansion to 48 teams the AFC has 8+1 sposts for the World Cup. I think it will be an absolute dogfight for the last three four spots behind the usual suspects Japan, South Korea, Australia, Iran and Saudi Arabia.
     

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