England Senior National Team General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Dec 12, 2022.

  1. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    Yeah i agree. I had the chance to watch Gomez live a couple of times before his last two injuries. He was better than anything we currently have, I really thought he'd push on and maybe even become England captain one day.
    Shame all the injuries have hampered him and he may never get back to what he was.
     
  2. PoliteSquats

    PoliteSquats Member

    Apr 13, 2015
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Is Maguire that bad on the ball? I don't know the stats but I've always thought his composure in possession is one of his strong suits.
     
  3. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    He's slow on the ball and his passing certainly isn't top level, although not bad. I think one of the things you notice with Martinez playing for United is how much quicker he plays the ball up the pitch than Maguire. I actually think Colwill is quite a lot like Martinez in this regard. Maguire is also right footed which isn't as optimal as being left footed like Colwill is.
     
    roverman and Iansutton270390 repped this.
  4. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    Maguire's passing is top level. It's probably as good or better than any other CB in the league, certainly any CB that England have.
     
  5. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    This is a pretty wild claim in my opinion. He isn't a better passer than Stones for England. Stones is actually one of the best about by many metrics. VVD is clearly a level above Maguire in this regard. Ruben Dias as well. Then there's Laporte and Silva. I think that even Luke Shaw is a better passer in the centre back role. He's a lot better than some people give him credit for, you'd find plenty of fans that would say he's United 5th best CB on the ball, which isn't true. I think the big gripe United fans have is that he holds onto the ball too long and slows down the play. He can dribble well and move the ball up the pitch if that's what you mean? I'm doubtful you could find any stats to back up the claim that he's the best passer in the league.
     
  6. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I think conor coady is the best passing English centreback
     
    AJ123 repped this.
  7. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Maybe the best long passer but again it's a question of how exactly you define it.
     
    roverman repped this.
  8. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Pat Bamford with 3 goals in 2 games in his latest come back from injury.
     
  9. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Probably one of the greatest 1v1 defenders in the history of football.

     
  10. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Shame he's never come close to a call up since he withdrew about 4 years ago
     
  11. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    He’s unfortunately just not good enough with the ball or going forward. If you were to combine both TAA and AWB you would have the most complete right back.
     
    roverman repped this.
  12. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    #187 MrSnrub, Jan 20, 2023
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2023
    We can but pray Rico Lewis gets converted into a proper central midfielder (or rather, moves back to that position). He looks the part on the ball and is exactly what England are missing to complete the midfield. We're desperate for a new midfielder to break through. Don't think it could be underestimated what an Guardiola tier central midfielder would do for the side, that and Colwill meeting his potential would be transformative.

    Certainly he doesn't play like a traditional right back so more than likely he'll get lost in that position for England, and at any rates its a well stocked position.

    His defending also isn't that good, he's just really, really good at one on one defending but his positioning is very often hopeless. He's like an Adama Traore for right back - one facet of the game he massively excels at, below average for pretty much everything else.
     
    Slater582 repped this.
  13. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    To be fair AWB has been in very good form for United recently. If someone like Big Sam was in charge of England I could see him getting a call up.
     
  14. Slater582

    Slater582 Member

    Jul 21, 2008
    Shrewsbury, England
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Also for Colwill personally. There was no UEFA U17 tournament due to Covid and he missed winning the U19 trophy last year due to his U21 promotion. This summer is probably his last chance of attending a major International youth competition.

    Agree and I hope Colwill will not suffer the same fate. He's out until March apparently.
     
  15. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    The English leagues are just too physical. I hope more players go abroad
     
  16. Khadrim

    Khadrim Member

    Jul 30, 2011
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    I don't get how Colwill apparently having played 7 games for Brighton in the league is already ahead in (England consideration) of a player like Max Kilman.
     
  17. Khadrim

    Khadrim Member

    Jul 30, 2011
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Don't they both have a tendency to be not aware of players around them. Both are accused of having attackers go past on the blindside repeatedly.
     
  18. Jimmy Skitz

    Jimmy Skitz Member+

    Leicester City
    England
    Nov 4, 2020
    Same way Mason Mount having played 7 games was suddenly first choice
     
    Khadrim repped this.
  19. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    roverman repped this.
  20. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Jude Bellingham scored a similar goal today. Tricked a defender then put it in the bottom corner
     
  21. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    AJ123, roverman and Gaz811 repped this.
  22. Gaz811

    Gaz811 Member+

    Everton FC
    England
    Oct 15, 2018
    Front 3 of Saka, Kane and Rashford?

    Also Nketiah in the next Squad?
     
    AJ123 and roverman repped this.
  23. Ste walker

    Ste walker Member

    Dec 2, 2016
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Pretty much nailed on for call up Nketiah, Southgate watching in the stands.
     
    roverman repped this.
  24. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    That's our best front 3 in my opinion
     
  25. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Bigger question than ever before about whether Ramsdale should be number one now. First English keeper to still be involved in a title race in the new year since Joe Hart?
     

Share This Page