The Philadelphia Union Thread

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  1. Gacm32

    Gacm32 Member+

    Chelsea
    Switzerland
    Nov 28, 2010
    Geneva
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    How can they when they’re rarely given an opportunity? Don’t tell; earn it in training?
     
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  2. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Starting from minute 21. I don't have impression that they said Sullivan will be backing up Gazdag. They want to move him closer to the goal going to 3-5-2 or 4-4-2. That also should help to put McGlynn to the middle where he won't need to chase fast wingers. Also said that 3-5-2 will help Craig.
     
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  3. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When your young players are training day in and day out against MVP candidates, defender of the year candidates and league best 11 members.....they're going to improve. McGlynn got into the lineup. harriel earned a starting spot and then M'Baizo earned it back. B Aaronson earned his starting spot in training, same as McKenzie and Trusty before him. People act like going to Europe will guarantee playing time??? Players have to earn it there too, especially the youngest players. You can't have it both ways...."they should go to Europe to EARN their playing time against better players in training"......."MLS should just be giving these kids playing time!" Pro sports don't work that way.

    There will be plenty of opportunities for playing time in 2023 with the Union potentially playing more than 50 games in all competitions.
     
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  4. Gacm32

    Gacm32 Member+

    Chelsea
    Switzerland
    Nov 28, 2010
    Geneva
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    You’re extrapolating a lot. The Union had a lot of games this season, and had substantial leads in a lot of them. You’re telling me they couldn’t have given Quinn Sullivan more substitute appearances? What about Brandon Craig? It only benefits you to get young players experience in game situations. In professional sports, they give fringe players opportunities to play when the situation allows for experimentation. Isn’t the American terminology “garbage minutes”? In the NBA, they have the last guy on the bench come in to play the entire 4th quarter if his team is up or down 20 points.
     
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  5. JUnionFan

    JUnionFan Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Sep 30, 2020
    https://www.inquirer.com/soccer/phi...fer-rumors-striker-ernst-tanner-20221118.html

    Another write up of the press conference, I'll post some interesting quotes below. My take on most of it; some promising lip service and answers mixed in with some professional non-answers. After this past year and not seeing as many HG minutes as I would like, a lot of this is "I'll believe it when I see it" territory.

    Asked if Pierre or Zambrano-Delgado could be on the first team next year, Tanner said: “We want to develop players, and we’d better develop young players into what we can sell, maybe, later on. You saw the successful example with Paxten now. That’s our DNA, and that’s how we go forward, and that’s what we are working for.”
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    “We have to find ways, and I have to find ways, to get him [Quinn Sullivan] on the field more,” Curtin said. “His best qualities are closer to the goal — I think he’s probably strikes a ball as well as anyone on our team. He finishes plays off in training consistently. So we have to find a way to be creative in getting him closer to goal.”
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    This time, the shift could be to a three-centerback setup, either a 3-4-3 or a 3-5-2. Those setups also would help Jack McGlynn play in a more central role than he has so far. And that in turn would give Curtin room to not overwork Alejandro Bedoya in what’s likely to be his last year.

    “Him going out to the sidelines to defend in space ... that’s not playing to his skill set,” Curtin said of McGlynn. “His skill set is to get on the ball to play, break lines, and different things.”

    A 4-4-2 with a box midfield — two attackers in front of two defenders — instead of a diamond also could help McGlynn and Sullivan play more. The Union have pondered that setup for a while now but haven’t gone for it yet.
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    So it helps that left back Matt Real and right back Nathan Harriel have played a bit of centerback over the years, whether with the Union’s academy or their reserve team.

    We certainly should expect to see more of Brandan Craig next year, and that will be a welcome sight. The 18-year-old from Bridesburg has loads of potential, and Curtin wants to give him a shot.
     
  6. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is not true, at all. NBA teams play to win, and unless they are down 20 with less than 5 to go, most teams trot out the starters at the beginning of the 4th. Seeing as the NBA is a game of tuns, a 20 point lead can evaporate quickly.

    Blowouts in Soccer aren't that common. The games in which the Union were beating teams 4,5,6 - zero....most of the goals came in the final 15 minutes. A coaches main job is to win games. The young players will play (they will likely NEVER play as much as USMNT only fans want) when the best time and situation presents itself. Playing time is also earned. Teams play one, maybe two games in a week. That's 180 minutes....they train for far longer than that between games. Training is where playing time is earned, games are where it is cemented.
     
  7. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
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  8. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Has played all but 28 minutes for one of the best teams in the country as a true freshman. At almost any other academy he would've been signed to a HG deal.

     
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  9. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
  11. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. TheFalseNine

    TheFalseNine Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like it could be Benfica.
     
  13. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/curtin-philadelphia-union-defender-kai-wagner-can-play-anywhere

    “The loss of Cory is a real one,” Curtin said. “He's a guy who can score double digits in our league and has done it before. That's tough to replace. Goals are hard to replace and we'll certainly be searching.

    “Can now, though, maybe a Quinn Sullivan step in and take some of that goalscoring load, whether it be as a 10 or as a second striker, whatever that might be? I think that's a reality too; the way he's playing in practice already has been impressive.”
     
  14. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  15. Dynamo Kev

    Dynamo Kev Member

    Oct 24, 2000
    I dunno, Curtin was giving Quinn and Paxten glowing reports last preseason too. We’ll see.
     
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  16. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    The one position is that Cory Burke is gone, and I could see Quinn fitting decently there.
     
  17. JUnionFan

    JUnionFan Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Sep 30, 2020
    https://www.inquirer.com/soccer/jim-curtin-philadelphia-union-contract-usmnt-20230117.html

    There could be promotions from the youth and reserve ranks, with forward Nelson Pierre atop the list of candidates. [...] "We will promote him, definitely,” Tanner said, though he doesn’t want to rush it. “We need to have [prospects] in training in order to see how far they’ve developed, and what is best for their development.”

    As for attacking midfield depth, Tanner said Quinn Sullivan is currently on track to be Dániel Gazdag’s chief backup.

    “I’m confident with him as a second No. 10, absolutely,” he said.

    There was chatter among scouts on social media recently that Minnesota tried to stop the Union from signing Darboe. Tanner said that wasn’t true. But he did say Darboe declined a contract offer from the Union, has acquired a European passport, and is likely headed across the Atlantic.


     
  18. bballshawn

    bballshawn Member+

    Feb 5, 2014
    Delaware
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    So Sullivan isn't playing this year is what I'm hearing lol
     
  19. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Following Paxten's path.
     
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  20. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Yeah seems that way. Hopefully if hes viewed as a back up it’s to multiple roles and functions so he gets at a minimum more time?

    last year doesn’t bode well in that regard though.
     
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  21. no exit

    no exit Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Nov 20, 2019
    I dunno, seems a bit strong. Curtin has kept a tight rotation, but not that tight. Last year 14 players got over 1000 regular season minutes; in 2021, almost 13; in 2020, 13. And that's not even considering CCL minutes, which can be solid challenges.

    This year Philly's playing CCL, MLS and Leagues Cup. Some backups will get good minutes. Sullivan might be one.
     
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  22. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And US Open Cup as well. There'll be minutes available to those who earn them.
     
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  23. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    PHilly parting with one of their older homegrowns. Good opportunity for Matt, as he was just forever stuck behind Blake.
     

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