Are you sure those are up to date? The article is from 2018 and Jay Berhlater is the Chief Commercial & Strategy Officer. I thought he was some kind of MLS exec now.
The committee is no longer listed as an active committee. That article stated the committees purpose. Also, this was the org chart from 2018. I like it because it lays out the responsibilities of members of USSF.
Yup. I think this is part of what people don't get. In 2018 it was Nico Romejin and Ryan Mooney who were part of the original coaching search with Earnie Stewart. I have no idea if those two still run those departments. Then it went thru several other voting cycles, etc. with other parts of the USSF. People blather on about Jay Berhalter constantly when there's never been any evidence whatsoever that he had anything to do with the hiring process. They just like bitching about things.
This is pathetic. The federation that you defend continuously couldn't have ********ed up this process any more than they did, but it is people who point that out are the ones that are the problem? The federation is responsible for there appearing to be a conflict of interest, but you know it isnt all about Jay Berhalter. They ********ed up so many things before then... and after. We had over 5 years between Couva and the WC and the team was unprepared. That is on the federation and coach. Nether apparently is up for the job they have.
even now we are talking about letting gregg (or one of his assistants) hang around for a month for jan camp, or three for the nl- then we can have a thorough search. thats not how this works. if we were a serious soccer country with a serious soccer fed we would have a list of 5 names who were already vetted and lined up, with a team working, keeping up with any manager still active in the world cup that fits the profile of what they want in a manager. i dont know how but we have normalized the idea of dicking around for a year without a national team manager. its not a three day process, but the clock didnt start the minute the whistle blew in doha. the search doesnt start the minute greggs contract expires. and hey, maybe the ussf have done that. maybe theyve already got interviews blocked off on their calender right after the exit/retaining interview with gregg. maybe curtain, cherundolo, matarazzo, roberto martinez and mourinho have been contacted and know what time to be in chicago/ready for a zoom call. but anyone thinking a search for a nt manager starts with greggs yes or no, and hey, that can take a couple of months is just as dumb as our fed if theres any possibility that happens.
This sounds like a great way to get sued by those coaches current employers for tampering, or at the very least to be put on the back foot at the negotiating table for said coaches buyout price. January camp should not be a thing anymore either. It's past its "useful" life. Finding friendly opponents in a non-fifa window is difficult enough. Fans don't attend these games either. The US is not hiring Jose Mourinho, that's fantasy booking at its most delusional. There's exactly ONE national team that Jose is going to coach, IF he decides to coach International Football, and that's Portugal. Everyone is going to be disappointed with whomever the next coach is. If its GGG....nough said. Id it's Jim Curtin all we'll here is that Earnie hired 'his' MLS coach. When it's not the 'big' name foreign coach y'all think you want, you're going to be disappointed.
Can you name a serious soccer country that has 5 names vetted and lined up already in case their coach leaves post World Cup? Does Belgium? Does England? Does Brazil? There is nothing abnormal about naming an interim manager and running a process to find a coach. That's in fact exactly how serious soccer countries do it. Garth Southgate was in fact an interim coach who got promoted to the full time job. Is England not a serious soccer country?
I mean it's trite to say so but it's not wrong: having a federation that's a total mess is one of the most "serious soccer country" things about the United States.
There's lots our federation could do well, but total mess isn't quite accurate. Jamaica's federation is what I think of when I think total mess. Canada also has their own issues though not to the same extent. The question is what standard are we even holding the federation to. Who should they be emulating that they aren't?
This isn't exactly what you asked for but close... Luis de la Fuente has signed as new head coach of Spain! U21 manager now becomes the main man for Spanish project to replace Luis Enrique. 🚨🇪🇸 #SpainDe la Fuente and Spanish Federation have completed the agreement today. Here we go. pic.twitter.com/XwReuO21eF— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) December 8, 2022
Yes, it's the, "The USSF isn't coming to my house to personally inform me of what they are doing so therefore I will assume the worst unless proven otherwise. But really, there's no way to "prove" otherwise because I've already made up my mind and live in my own reality."
okay well a very strong presence the from the club soccer side in that committee, regardless perhaps helps to explain the mindboggling over-inclusion of MLS in the USMNT this cycle.
Well said. It comes down to these clowns defending everything the federation does. How they did it was when they should gone in crisis mode and showed some urgency they dicked around more than anybody could have imagined. When someone argues for years "well, they of course needed to wait a few months for an election ", "they had to hire a technical director first, and you know that takes tiem", and "Earnie worked quick to find Gregg, but the Columbus Crew is more important than the USMNT", thinking it takes a few months seems pretty natural. There is a guy who doesn't understand why am bothered by Berhalter dicking around for a whole year after waiting for him to start for year.
spain did it right. thats a serious soccer country. and fwiw gregg isnt good enough to be an assistant to luis enrique
Hell no. What we need to do is stop wasting FIFA windows on trying to get MLS guys up to speed. If an MLS player wants into the national team, they need to show out in January or grind in a u23/B team (this is a no brainer that we should have had for decades).
zero cups since 1966.....so....not really one to emulate. i get the cultural connection between USa and Uk...and they have the money and EPL....but Enlgand is NOT THE COUNTRY TO IMITATE in soccer!!!
Maybe we should try to get Enrique. He is a better coach than Berhalter for possession with no purpose.
Southgate as an intermediate manager becoming full time manager isnt something I want to emulate. Really, there is nothing about England that we should be following. Unfortunately, MLS want to be like the EPL. So stupid.
and in the end gregggs world cup team was competing with a bunch of unaswered questions still hanging around and a bunch unsolved problems still unresolved and then people come with the excuses for him like covid etc......4 YEARS after he took over greeggg had basic questions to address and issues with the team - HIS ANSWERS WERE WRONG almost across the board....as exemplified on the field. no greggg you cant run your fist 11 into the ground every game in a condensed world cup and play a high intensity styl of defense every minute and hope to have anything left in the knockouts OBVIOUSLY that would only work if your objective was simply making it out of the group and not actually doing anything afterwards - which i beleive was actually the thinking inside greggs camp.
Any manager worth his or her salt has a listing of names ready to contact if he/she feels that a change is coming or is needed. I have that list for the two roles that report to me. Do I expect either of my reports to leave anytime soon? No, but I know who my first calls will be to if either of them come to me tomorrow and give their notices. And whether people like it or not, back-channel communications between "our people" and "his people" will take place even as the current coach remains employed. Sorry, that's just how the game is played at that level. Do you not think that when Pochettino was fired at Spurs and Mourinho hired the next day that there weren't communications taking place while Poch was still employed? Spain has already announced that its U21 coach will replace Enrique. Do you think the RFEF heads just woke up today and thought, "Hey, let's just ask the guy down the hall to take the job"? Of course not. They had a plan in place before they needed it. I'll gladly bet you a very expensive dinner that the countries you have mentioned not only have their names lined up, they've already made back-channel communications even before this World Cup is done. The fact that USSF would need to drag things out, have a long-term interim manager, etc. shows an abject failure of leadership in the organization that many of us have clearly communicated for years. It's systemic and an example of many not-for-profits without strong leadership, so it's not just an issue for USSF. But USSF certainly exhibits plenty of evidence that they are not a well-led organization.
He didnt have a clue who the starters were going to be at GK, CB, and Forward until the very end. He never got the depth sorted out at LB, CM, and Forward. This is what happens when you waste a year and then continue to play your backups who arent good enough too much. He had no alternative to MMA and only Acosta as a sub for all three. He didnt play our most talented player until the tournament was basically over. At least we had four right backs.
its pathetically bad management. playing long and ferreira every minute of the last year? for which reason again? like.....bro....can you not tell these players arent it? like 99% of fans and observers could the whole time. if there werent alternatives it would be one thing BUT THERE WERE. PLENTY. i could have told him this way of doing things wouldnt work in 1998.....i think I am more disappointed that there isnt general consensus against him than with the results of the team. If people can accept this level of malpractice - then, in the end, this is what we will continue to get.....and what the US will deserve as a national team. if there's even a chance he gets another cycle - then the US deserves to suck at soccer, imo.
That doesn't actually say that. That's the Technical Development Committee. Earnie is the US Soccer Staff Liaison to that, and unsurprisingly, the man who has influence over ~30 of the top youth academies in the US is one of the board members on the committee. Do you read anything before you make massive assumptions?