My 2022 World Cup Group Stage Predictions: What do you think?

Discussion in 'World Cup 2022 - Qatar' started by Mean Machine, Apr 1, 2022.

  1. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member+

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    Great, the brazucas have a bye to Quarterfinals...

    So many teams gifting qualifications. Spain and Argentina just passing the ball around for the last 15 minutes, Portugal B today, France B almost too the other day. Guess now it's Cameroon's turn.
     
  2. mfw13

    mfw13 Member+

    Jul 19, 2003
    Seattle
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    That may go down as the most puzzling result of the group stages.

    Japan beat both Germany and Spain.
    Costa Rica lost to both Germany and Spain (by a combined 9 goals, no less).

    Yet Japan lost to Costa Rica.

    Go figure.....
     
  3. mfw13

    mfw13 Member+

    Jul 19, 2003
    Seattle
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    The current Netherlands squad is probably the least talented in my lifetime. An inexperienced keeper, no superstar striker, no real superstars at all (except maybe Van Dijk). If they had been drawn in just about any other group, they may not have even made it to the knockouts.

    Compare this squad to the Dutch squads of the late 80's (Koeman, Gullit, Rijkaard, Van Basten) or 90's (Davids, Seerdorf, Bergkamp, the DeBoers, Overmars, etc.).....
     
  4. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    Like someone else mentioned.

    Style matchups.

    Counter attacking teams don't do well against bunkering sides.
     
  5. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    They were somewhat lucky to even make it out of that group.
     
  6. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    And Argentina don't ? :rolleyes:

    You also had a cake group.
     
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  7. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    What an insane WC

    Saudi beat Argentina but go home.

    Tunisia beat France but go home.

    Cameroon beat Brazil but go home.

    Japan lose to Costa Rica after beating Germany but pull through.

    Korea in the worst position going into the final match pull through.

    Australia make it through.

    It's been insane.
     
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  8. Mean Machine

    Mean Machine Member+

    May 23, 2018
    I have to be honest, I’m tired of all this game tanking. It’s ridiculous. Seriously, we need to make head-to-head points over goal difference for who’s on top like they do with UEFA. It would limit game tanking a lot more.
     
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  9. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member+

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    27 out 32 teams won a match :eek:


    Only Qatar, Canada, Wales, Denmark and Serbia go home winless.
     
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  10. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    Serbia effed up again.

    Never have I seen a team so hyped yet fail every single time. Horrible.
     
  11. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Argentina
    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina

    No team won the 3 matches on the 1st round

    Denmark, Belgium and Germany out in the 1st round

    Morocco and Japan topping their groups

    Australia going through

    Many groups decided by goal difference


    Its all unexpected, crazy, and in many ways, fun.

    Day 3 everyone thought Saudi Arabia beating Argentina was gonna be the biggest upset or unexpected thing to happen but it only was the first piece of a chain reaction of crazyness:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
  12. pipinogol

    pipinogol Member+

    May 20, 2016
    Club:
    Cary RailHawks U23
    It's a new record in 32-team world cups, surpassing the previous edition by one (only 6 teams finished winless).

    Also the first time in ALL world cup history that no team managed to win all their group games I believe.
    Edit: nope, no team did it in 1994 either. My bad.
     
  13. dna77054

    dna77054 Member+

    Jun 28, 2003
    houston
    It appears that the order of the games was just as important as the quality of the teams in many of the groups.
     
  14. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    That's always been the case though.
     
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  15. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    I know Spain already broke this trend, but is there a WC contender that didn't lose in the first round this time around ?
     
  16. dna77054

    dna77054 Member+

    Jun 28, 2003
    houston
    It has always mattered to some degree, but I doubt it ever mattered as much as it did in this WC. I wonder if the quicker turn around between games is influencing the line ups and efforts of the "aleady qualified" more than in previous WCs. It sucked for Uruguay this time, but I also remember it helping Paraguay in 98 when their third game was against already group winner Nigeria who eased off in that game, which helped Paraguay advance over Spain. I remember Ivory Coast getting screwed by the order in 2010

    I have not run the numbers, but it feels like this WC has had more 4 point teams eliminated than any WC in the 32 team era. Ecuador, Mexico, Tunisia, Germany, Belgium, Cameroon, and Uruguay ALL out with 4 points. That has to be a record. Poland, Korea, and Spain advance with 4 points.
     
  17. dna77054

    dna77054 Member+

    Jun 28, 2003
    houston
    The Dutch, depending on how one defines "contender".
     
  18. Viking lord

    Viking lord Member

    Uruguay
    Aug 4, 2022
    Nat'l Team:
    Uruguay
    Teams already qualified (16)
    Pot 1
    (6): England*, Argentina*, France*, Spain, Brazil*, Portugal*
    Pot 2 (4): Netherlands*, USA, Croatia, Switzerland
    Pot 3 (5): Senegal, Poland, Japan*, Morocco*, South Korea
    Pot 4 (1): Australia

    * = Group winner.

    Teams already eliminated (16)
    Pot 1
    (2): Qatar, Belgium
    Pot 2 (4): Mexico, Denmark, Germany, Uruguay
    Pot 3 (3): Iran, Tunisia, Serbia
    Pot 4 (6): Ecuador, Wales, Saudi Arabia, Costa Rica, Canada, Cameroon, Ghana

    This is quite a contrast with 2018 where almost all Pot 1 & 2 teams ended up going through, except for Peru, Germany and Poland, which were upset by Denmark (3), Sweden (3) and Japan (4) respectively.

    I wish we can a bigger sample size for next world cups, but the stupid expansion to 48 teams is going to make this irrelevant.

    Random thoughts:
    * Even though almost all of them gave a fight, except for Ecuador, Australia and Cameroon, every other Pot 4 team ended up as the last place of their group.
    * Every pot 1 team (except Spain) who went through won their group.
    * As you may notice, most upsets were caused by Pot 3 to Pot 2 teams. Most pot 1 teams went through and most pot 4 teams were eliminated
    * Wales would have been in pot 3 if the draw had been made after their playoff, and Tunisia would have been placed in pot 4
     
  19. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That must have been Brazil's Z-team then... anyway, what did I tell you, Cameroon and South Korea to win their games one one to sneak into the round of 16... okay, well something like that... :D
     
  20. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    That Brazil team is still better than most teams in this competition.

    Certainly much better than Portugal and France's B teams.
     
  21. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    Yes I remember, and Spain beat Bulgaria 6-0 but it didn't matter. Sad to see really.

    Well Nigeria didn't recover from that Paraguay game. That was 2 straight world cups Nigeria topped their group yet failed in the 2nd round.

    I wonder for the numbers guys if a team has done that before.
     
  22. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    All three teams that had 6 pts after two matches played a team that had 1 point and were almost guaranteed of winning group. All three of those 1 pt teams won their match!
     
  23. diegomaradona1010

    Sep 16, 2017
    Teams tanking will also be a problem in 48 team WCs. If teams A and B win their first games, they have no reason really to play their best head to head since they’ve both advanced.
     
  24. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    You were saying?
     
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  25. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    :barefoot::coffee::coffee::coffee::coffee:

    :sneaky:
     

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