The agenda of the left

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by superdave, Sep 28, 2017.

  1. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
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    Many people are saying this!
     
  2. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    I'm being charitable. None really can articulate what drives their 2 parent family support.
     
  3. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
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    It’s really impossible to say. Impossible to articulate. One of those weird dumb traditions and myths. It’s frankly racist.
     
  4. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

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    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
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    You quote the "Institute for Family Studies" (formerly "The Ridge Foundation") and expect anybody to take any argument seriously?

    If you are going to cite to an incredibly biased, pro-"nuclear family" and anti-family (in the larger sense of the word), organization, so be it, but this conversation is over.

    Some of their "studies" and resources:
    Religion Is Good for Families and Kids
    Your Divorce Questions
    Eight Ideas for Protecting Your Marriage from Divorce

    Initially, I included links to this tripe, but removed them. No need to provide any more "hits" to those jackasses.

    Finally, as a reminder, here is the first post in this conversation:
    This is the real "thinking" behind his comments.
    The jazzy-one does not want to expend any public money to assist children in need.
     
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  5. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
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    And what is that supposed to mean? You don't know anything about me.
     
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  6. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

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    Very Orwellian. Being pro-nuclear-family is anti-family. I’m enjoying this.
     
  7. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
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    I said pro-"nuclear" family, not "pro-family."
    They are "pro-family" in ONLY the most limited sense, as I stated.
     
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  8. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
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    A conservative is always going to conservative. For some silly reason I got curious when I saw activity on this thread.
     
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  9. Jazzy Altidore

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    The unbearable oppression of favoring children living with their mom and dad. Very troubling and problematic.
     
  10. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

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    Once again you ignore the actual argument I made to engage in mind-reading. Hahahaha. You keep ignoring my words to insert you own which only proves how wrong you are.
     
  11. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    May we pretend, for argument's sake, that you are speaking to someone who is not your intellectual inferior in every possible measureable way?

    I know a bit about inference.

    Right now, the US and other western countries permit people to marry and divorce at-will, and to bear children at-will.

    There are only three ways to increase the number of two-parent households:

    1. Restrict the ability to divorce

    2. Require people to marry

    3. Restrict single parents from having children

    There simply are not other ways in which you can do what you want to do.

    Now, if there were, in the dozens of meandering posts we have been subjected to thus far, you would have mentioned some.

    So mention some.

    Or go the ******** away.
     
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  12. Smurfquake

    Smurfquake Moderator
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    Aug 8, 2000
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    If two parents are better than one, why wouldn't three parents be better than two? We should make single people join families as surrogate third parents to make sure that kids have a better outcome.
     
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  13. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    Time is a resource, you fatuous nincompoop.

    EDIT: before anyone criticizes me for a personal attack, go watch "Lincoln." It's a movie reference.
     
  14. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
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    It works with the rich, having "nannies" and "au pairs" are all.

    Those kids (with two parents and an au pair) NEVER, EVER have problems*.



    (*'cause mommy and daddy buy them out of problems, of course)
     
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  15. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

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    Or at least require extended families.
     
  16. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
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    Like Stuart Rhodes' kids?
     
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  17. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Why are my liberal brethren using anecdotes to argue with data? That’s what Fox News does.
     
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  18. Auriaprottu

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    The back of the bus
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    we are only children
     
  19. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...other-countries-to-live-with-just-one-parent/

    Around the world, living in extended families is linked with lower levels of economic development: Financial resources stretch further and domestic chores such as childcare are more easily accomplished when shared among several adults living together.

    The U.S., like other economically advanced countries, particularly in Europe and northern Asia, has relatively small households overall. The average person in the U.S. lives in a home of 3.4 people – which is less than the global average of 4.9, but slightly higher than the European average of 3.1. In the U.S., Christians (3.4), the unaffiliated (3.2) and Jews (3.0) live with roughly the same number of household members.

    However, household sizes vary by age – the average U.S. child under 18 lives in a household of 4.6 members, while the average adult age 60 or older only lives with one other person.

    In early adulthood, Americans continue to live with their parents at relatively high rates. Adult child households account for 20% of Americans between the ages of 18 and 34. (Adult child households are defined as at least one parent living with one son or daughter 18 or older and no minor children or other family members.) Young adults in the U.S. are similar to their Canadian counterparts in this regard, and North America has a higher share of young adults who live in this arrangement than any other region.
     
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  20. dapip

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    #1345 dapip, Dec 2, 2022
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    https://www.theceomagazine.com/business/health-wellbeing/best-countries-working-parents/

    With the capital, Helsinki, taking first place in the world for the best work–life balance, Finland also has generous leave entitlements for parents. Pregnant women can take their paid leave 50–30 days prior to giving birth and for a total of 105 days. Fathers are entitled to 54 days of paid leave, 18 of which can be at the same time as the mother. Paid leave can also be granted to working parents who intend to take at least a month off to care for their child.

    Finnish health care
    Public health care is available to all residents and while it is not free, it is funded by taxation and patient fees are relatively low.

    Early childhood education and fees in Finland
    After parental leave, children can attend an early childhood education and care (ECEC) centre or parents can choose to care for their child at home where they can claim an allowance until the child reaches three years of age. The maximum fee charged for ECEC is around US$333 per month, which varies depending on the family’s income and the number of offspring. New Zealand, Australia and the US have comparatively high fees for childcare compared to Finland.

    Maternity and paternity leave in Norway
    Norwegian parents can take a combined leave of 12 months in addition to one year of leave thereafter granted to each parent, which amounts to two years for singles caring for their child.

    Maternity and paternity leave in Norway
    Norwegian parents can take a combined leave of 12 months in addition to one year of leave thereafter granted to each parent, which amounts to two years for singles caring for their child.

    Norwegian health care
    Norway has universal health coverage that is funded by taxes. This is automatically granted to all citizens, with only 10 per cent of the population opting for private insurance. It covers ambulatory, mental health and hospital care, as well as some prescription medication.

    Early childhood education and fees in Norway
    Most parents in Norway enrol their children in kindergarten between the ages of one and five, and public funding for the kindergarten sector is particularly high. This has encouraged women to continue employment while parenting.

    Maternity and paternity leave in Denmark
    When it comes to work–life balance, employees in Denmark are known to leave work at around 4pm to pick up their children and prepare the evening meal. This becomes even more flexible throughout the summer months. In fact, Copenhagen ranked fifth in the world according to the 2021 Work–Life Balance Index. Paid parental leave is a total of 52 weeks, of which 32 weeks can be arranged between the parents themselves.

    Danish health care
    Life expectancy in Denmark exceeds other European nations and all its citizens have equal access to free healthcare services, which is categorised into different groups. Additionally, the system is particularly recognised for its high quality, perhaps as a result of the country’s stable wealth and advanced technology.

    Early childhood education and fees in Denmark
    Danish children can begin their public daycare as early as nine months old, and by the age of three an estimated 98 per cent of children attend kindergarten. While some parents may choose private education, the public-run institutions are free of charge until the age of 16.
     
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  21. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
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    The fact that you ate pickles marinated in Kool-Aid as a child says so much about you. Very revealing.
     
  22. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
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    That's true. But you know me (digitally). That punk ass bitch doesn't.
     
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  23. luftmensch

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    May 4, 2006
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    Then I guess polygamous parenting teams of 3 or more are even better?
     
  24. Smurfquake

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    Aug 8, 2000
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    If more is better, why not make every adult in the community responsible for all of the children in the community? It takes a village...
     
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  25. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    The best parental care is provided in middle Eastern harems. Bonesaw bin Salman is a testimony of it.
     
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