The 2022 MLS TV thread

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  1. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Again, as a person that does not use the Twitter app, but uses the website, you have shown why your concerns about Apple dropping the Twitter app from its store is not as big an issue as you claim. Twitter’s website will still exist. The app will still be available to DroidOS users, even if Google drops it from its store, etc, etc.

    The biggest risk to Twitter and MLS’s outreach to its fans isn’t Apple. It is the thin-skinned egomaniac that f**ked up and WAY overpaid for the company without even doing a minimal amount of due diligence to ensure he was getting what he paid for..
     
  2. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually on Apple products you can't use the browser if they block it. Android has multiple operating systems.
     
  3. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What browser??? If an app is blocked, you can still access websites via Safari, Chrome, Firefox, etc.....

    Seriously....Apple's App store doesn't allow Adult (p0rn) content in it's app store. You can still access all the p0rn you want using a web browser on their devices though.
     
  4. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just how many layers of tinfoil do you have in your hat? Apple blocks many apps from its store and VERY rarely blocks sites from its browsers. As long as Twitter keeps the site’s security up to date it isn’t at risk of being blocked.
     
  5. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Okay, i thought they only had their own web browser and you couldn't download anything else on it. For what it's worth I hope they do this. I believe it will backfire and hopefully businesses will get back to just selling products.
     
  6. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for the update and the nice way of informing me. I appreciate it.
     
  7. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's because the younger generation has moved on from Twitter, just like they have from Facebook. There's a reason Zuckerberg renamed the company Meta....

    Twitter is this century's print media. Print media used to give away all of their content on the internet for FREE. Then one day someone noticed that their subscriptions were substantially lower than they used to be. Suddenly they started charging for their content on their websites and have been trying to play catch up ever since.

    Twitter has been FREE since it's inception. The original creator of the website and the investors who helped fund always struggled with how to monetize it. Ads are great and all, however you can't run a global social media giant on ad revenue alone. Especially when there isn't a way to reliably quantify how effective that advertising actually is. Enter Elon.....buys a company that been hanging on by a thread for about a decade, and not making a lot of money (profit). Elon paid a poo-ton of money for a company that doesn't make money, and doesn't have a sustainable model to do so. So he tries to make it a quasi subscription service while also slashing costs. The departments he gutted he didn't view as having a profit value. Unfortunately, those departments were responsible for helping to make and keep Twitter viable.

    Elon ranting about the 30% "tax" for apps in the Apple App store? That';s been around since the beginning. It hasn't stopped people and companies from creating apps and putting them in the App Store. Elon's temper tantrum isn't going to change this. Google doesn't charge a monetary fee to put apps in the play store, but google has free reign over all of the data from those apps and can then turn around and sell it and use it how they see fit. With no money going to the app makers....Is that any less fair?

    At the end of the day Twitter will become this generations MySpace. Another platform will come along. Twitter will either evolve or it will die.

    https://wallaroomedia.com/blog/soci...rs – TikTok officially,– 480M, Twitter – 300M.

    Twitter has 300M monthly users.........

    Tik Tok has 1 Billion monthly users.......

    SnapChat has 500M

    Pinterest has 450M

    Instagram has 1,4 BILLION

    Youtube has 2.2 BILLION

    Facebook has 2.9 Billion
     
  8. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I get the point but are any of these doing the traffic for MLS that Twitter does? Other than YouTube most of MLS media is on Twitter breaking stories. Time will tell and I agree something else will come along but they have a whole new platform they're putting together by February? I wonder if this escalates, will their new partners and journalists join in?
     
  9. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Journalists broke soccer news long before Twitter was around. They'll break soccer news long after its gone. The largest age group using Twitter is 25-34 and second largest is 35-49. Less than 25% of the users are under 25. It's already an old man's platform (56% men in 2022 compared to 59% women in 2010) mostly used as a rage machine for people at the political extremes.

    If I had to wager where sports journalism will migrate to, I'd put my money on something more decentralized like Mastodon where those who are actually contributing (journalists, team/league employees, etc.) will have more control over who and what is allowed.
     
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  10. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    By limiting who and what is aloud are you growing the league? I do remember before Twitter and reading magazines and news papers back then. Also Big Soccer was way more important back then. Maybe this will make Big Soccer great again.:D
     
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  11. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004

    USA vs England is not a real record.
     
  12. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    In the top 200 cable sports, the world cup was #3 (Argentina - Mexico), #5 (Spain - Germany), #7, #8, #15, #17, #19, #26, and #28-30. Argentina - Mexico and Spain - Germany beat ALL college football games on cable this week. WWE beat the games that finished 28-30. There were also world cup games that did worse - #59, #72, #79, #93, #102, #114, #140, #148, #150, #163 and #176. Many of the lower ones were repeat showings. Additionally, the pregame shows ranked #12, #14, #21, #25, #98, #106-107, #109, #129, and #147. Highlights show was #185 and preview show #199. Least watched game was a replay of Tunisia vs Australia with 185k. First airing did 342k.
     
  13. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1813 mbar, Nov 30, 2022
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    This seems like a great number to me. On a work/school day it seems like the best comparison would be the Wales match and it beat that significantly.
     
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  14. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Still going at NBA Finals levels, but at much worse time slots. A+ ratings. Now how do we make people understand that soccer exists between world cups too? :)
     
  15. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Americans like BIG EVENTS that are aggressively hyped by the networks. The World Cup will always be peak soccer interest by miles. Hopefully every tournament chips in a few incremental new supporters, but until MLS is the premier league in the world with all of the top tier stars, we won't see any matches topping 5mil outside of the World Cup.
     
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  16. AZUL GALAXY

    AZUL GALAXY Member

    Aug 28, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Agree, the leagues cup will increase the tv ratings compared with regular season MLS.
     
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  17. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Isn't Leagues Cup only on Apple?
     
  18. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    I think that’s the problem: they know it exists but are largely not that interested. Club soccer just can’t replicate World Cup stakes even if the quality is higher a la Champions League. But still hopefully some are converted and maybe even end up caring about whatever local soccer is on offer.
     
  19. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
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  20. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  22. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think there was anything there to begin with. Elon just needing something to make him look like a victim.
     
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  23. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Especially after it leaked that apple increased advertising on Twitter, not cutting it off as Elon claimed. It was all a negotiating tactic to lower the 30 percent fee on subscriptions.
     
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  24. AZUL GALAXY

    AZUL GALAXY Member

    Aug 28, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    We don’t know that yet, but it will be big in the 3 countries.
     
  25. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Even if its behind a paywall?
     

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