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  1. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I don't know why I thought Poland had won.

    Looks like it's going to come down to Fair Play points. That seems so schoolboy, like the team with the best grades moves on if the other tiebreakers are even.

    I'd almost rather them flip a coin. What if the straight red was a GK pulling down an attacker in the box on a 1 v. 1, and not some guy kicking an opponent in the nutz when the center ref's back is turned?
     
  2. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    And immediately after Saudi Arabia scores. Justice!
     
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  3. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Now El Tri can get 10 yellows
     
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  4. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Damn, Mexico...
     
  5. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    That was fun. Mexico loses by winning, can't ask for more than that.
     
  6. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Well, Poland didn't expend a ton of energy today, so they should have enough left in the tanke when they play . . . France, IIRC.
     
  7. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Damn funny
     
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  8. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Lewandowski had a penalty saved.
     
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  9. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    Tata Martino should be available within the hour.
     
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  10. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    They really can't help themselves at this point.
     
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  11. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    #1461 xtomx, Nov 30, 2022
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2022
    Poland winning by losing.

    By the way, Mexico have lost more games at the World Cup than other team.
    Mexico has the all time worst goals differential.
     
  12. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    Americans and their love of gerrymandering.
     
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  13. chaski

    chaski Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 20, 2000
    redacted
    Club:
    Lisburn Distillery FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Turks and Caicos Islands
    Argentina— goal by MacAllister
    Mexico— Home Alone
     
  14. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    So in CONCACAF, only 1 side looks to be moving forward.

    CAF look to have at least 2 (Ghana and Senegal), and possibly 3 if Morocco work a miracle.

    Asia have 1 side (Australia) through, and possibly, a 2nd if Japan hold serve.

    UEFA have 7, 8, or 9, depending on results

    CONMEBOL have 2, and possibly 3, if Uruguay can work a miracle.
     
  15. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    I don't see Japan advancing. I would not have predicted Australia to be the only Asian team to advance, especially as they finished 5th in Asian qualifying.

    It's worth noting CONCACAF swept the three games against Asia: US over Iran, Mexico over Saudi Arabia and Costa Rica over Japan.
     
  16. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The way Greece and Bulgaria jerked the Macedonians around over the name for silly nationalist reasons was shameful. The fact that they had to agree to the name change was a real fail by the international community.
     
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  17. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Is "Dos" an unlucky numero in Mexico? :unsure:
     
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  18. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    Started already. The brave “Underdogs” ready to take on the world.
    It doesn’t matter which international sport.
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    It’s a good team, maybe the manager has an inferiority complex. They have a good a chance as any. Holland isn’t the team we’ve seen in the past, so why does the media do this to them.
     
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  19. Chicago76

    Chicago76 Member+

    Jun 9, 2002
    In a 64 team tournament, we’d roughly have 32 UEFA/CONMEBOL teams and 32 from the ROW. I would imagine the second groups stage would be closer to 22-24 UEFA/CONMEBOL and 8-10 ROW. If an Australia could get through 1) an initial group that is easier than their current WC group and 2) second group that is more difficult than their current group, then they will have earned the descriptor.

    5 matches will require man management and roster depth. The more difficult second group would not be as forgiving. And some teams that were a year late in hitting their stride during quals would be there.
     
  20. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    Maybe?

    But as things stand, they've got a match against Spain who have already won the group; Japan would have to win 7-0 for Spain to not win that group. So Spain probably aren't going to "go all in" for a game that means nothing to them.

    Japan also have a lead on both Germany and the ticos on points and GD.

    Both Costa Rica and Germany need to win, AND for a disinterested Spain to beat Japan. Oh, and for GD to slide in their favor.

    By contrast, Japan's task is to get a result against a good, but probably disinterested Spain.
     
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  21. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Well, it's still too close for comfort.

    Of course, if you allow regular people to participate in choosing their government, one of the unfortunate side effects is that it will show us that common people are just as capable of being evil as powerful despots. (As if we didn't know that.)

    But all in all, I still prefer to be in a place where we depend on ourselves rather than on a despot.
     
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  22. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That long??
     
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  23. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    On paper Netherlands is more talented than the US, but I haven't seen that reflected in the matches that both teams have played so far in this Cup.
     
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  24. Smurfquake

    Smurfquake Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2000
    San Carlos, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Spain has not yet won the group or even clinched advancement. They can be eliminated if things don't go their way. It's unlikely - it would require a big combined goal difference in Japan and Germany's wins (edit to add: or Japan and Costa Rica both winning tomorrow, which is super unlikely) - but to say they're "disinterested" and will let Japan do whatever they want is not realistic. I would argue that Costa Rica has a better shot to advance than Japan - both teams' chances are very, very small, but Germany has shown they can be beaten while Spain has not.
     
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  25. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Holland has had a half dozen "Golden Generations" that fell short so not having that tag hanging around their neck might just be a plus. A rematch with Portugal would be fun! :)
     

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