Soccer, sports and politics (R)

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  1. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Ha! :p
     
  2. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Excuse me... 1.08%
     
  3. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    So close for poor Tunisia. I was really hoping more African nations made it out of the GS. Maybe if their talent stayed home for NT duty...
     
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  4. chaski

    chaski Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 20, 2000
    redacted
    Club:
    Lisburn Distillery FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Turks and Caicos Islands
    and he plays for Fulham, which does not regularly play in a top league.;)
     
  5. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    (81-74)/(81+74) = 4.5%

    Never thought I'd have to do that on BigSoccer but here we are.
     
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  6. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    France goal disallowed! :whistling:
     
  7. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Still doesn't matter. Tunisia's out...
     
  8. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    Not sure Colin Kaepernik would totally agree.
     
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  9. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    I'm sure it matters to the Tunisians! :)
     
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  10. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Last two matches shows why they are decided on the pitch....not by one's Bookie! :coffee:
     
  11. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I was just kinda thinking about how Mexico got hosed a bit, getting into a group with two teams that are pretty good in Poland and Argentina. Against the likes of Iran and Wales, the US was positioned to reach the R16 and only a Zimmerman error v. Wales made it dicey..
     
  12. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My dad used to tell me about Detroit Tigers radio announcer Harry Heilman, who called what happened to him a "groan injury."
     
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  13. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    The Saudis being good enough to take three points off Argentina muddled things a bit more, too.
     
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  14. Chicago76

    Chicago76 Member+

    Jun 9, 2002
    Mexico almost always gets hosed in the groups and R16. Other than that WC where they got a seed they really didn’t deserve, they seem to draw one big team and a second really dangerous team like a Croatia or Uruguay. And in the R16, they end up paired with a big team or in the case of 2002, someone who knows them too well and matches up well.

    A lot of that is down to how the pots were formerly drawn. Top seed in one pot. CONCACAF and AFC in another. Mexico was always the best/second best in that pot, so their group by default is difficult. Doesn’t take much to get one more tough team from the UEFA pot or the CAF/CONMEBOL pot.
     
  15. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
    One step ahead
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Palestine
    You are obviously very worried about the welfare of the Qataris. A noble concern, no doubt.

    I am pleased to reassure you that the Qataris on the whole are happy with their rights. Their population (and the population of the Saudis and the Gulf States) is usually around, but slightly below, the US (all of whom trail the Nordic countries) when it comes to global measures of happiness. The US is usually around 20th and the Qataris are usually around 30th out of around 150 countries.

    So pretty good all round for both Qatar and the US when it comes to domestic affairs. Well done both of you!
     
  16. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The government threatened Kaep’s family?

    News to me.
     
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  17. Bootsy Collins

    Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

    Oct 18, 2004
    Capitol Hill
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And when the doctor said I didn't have worms anymore, that was the happiest day of my life!
     
  18. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    stanger, people misbehaving all the way up to the legal limits of their environment isn't something we ignore when comparing environments that are not what they should be.

    That nobody could threaten Kaep's family and get away with it because of US laws isn't an indicator of our superior morals. It simply ignores the fact that America kills with thousands and thousands of small paper cuts, over decades.
     
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  19. luftmensch

    luftmensch Member+

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    United States
    May 4, 2006
    Petaluma
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Shitloads of money tends to improve those metrics just a bit. Yay fossil fuel reserves!
     
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  20. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    They have pretty bizarre demographics. Looks like they hire people to turn on the lights and scratch their balls.

    2,795,484

    In early 2017, Qatar's total population was 2.6 million, with 313,000 of them Qatari citizens and 2.3 million expatriates.
     
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  21. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    Come on, man.

    Colin Kaepernick, even after being targeted by the president of the United States and having his life threatened by thousands of window licking theo-fascists, is still far more free and liberated than any woman, queer, or foreign worker in Qatar.
     
  22. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
    One step ahead
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Palestine
    Obviously that pushes the happiness level up for Qatar, unlike the US population which has unfortunately never seen the joys of cheap oil and gas from the Middle East since 1951 and earlier.

    I wonder why there’s a massive US base at Al-Udeid? Must be to protect all the migrant workers and women there.
     
  23. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I don't dispute that.
    We still live in a glass house, tho, and some of us want it painted.
     
  24. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Auria, your perspective is one of the reasons I frequent these message boards.

    What Kaep went through, IMO, is not in any way similar to what the Iranian government is doing to their soccer team.

    I’m not claiming superior morals, just pointing out the differences.
     
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  25. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    No, it wasn't a government action that happened to Colin. 'Merica don't really roll that way.

    It was the words and actions of millions of conservatives on social media, at dinner parties, at get togethers, BBQs, family reunions, all chanting the conservative mantra to help the NFL owners refuse to hire him.

    Iran does by legislating discrimination. We do it with small government refusing to help when they hurt for so many centuries.
     
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