World Cup 2022 and the Battle between Confederations

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  1. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Cameroon also beat Colombia in the R16 in 1990 (I made the same mistake this morning thinking it would be only the second one!).
     
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  2. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    Right how could I forget Rene Higuita LOL !!!
     
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  3. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    That is partly because I understand Elo weighs NL games as highly as qualifiers - which is about right I think - while FIFA weighs them as friendlies.
     
  4. Viking lord

    Viking lord Member

    Uruguay
    Aug 4, 2022
    Nat'l Team:
    Uruguay
    They are weighed less than qualifiers, but more than friendlies. It goes:
    World cup > Continental tournaments > Qualifiers > Nation's League > Friendlies > Non-FIFA dates friendlies (they barely matter)
     
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  5. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Thanks for the clarification.
     
  6. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    FIFA Points Ranking after 36 games.
    If 2 points per win and 1 point per draw were given.

    UEFA: 35/13 = 2.69
    CONMEBOL: 10/4 = 2.5
    CAF: 11/5 = 2.2
    CONCACAF: 7/4 = 1.75
    AFC: 9/6 = 1.5
     
  7. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Why not 3 points for a win incidentally
     
  8. mfw13

    mfw13 Member+

    Jul 19, 2003
    Seattle
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    In terms of advancing out of the group stage, so far we've got:

    UEFA: 2/13 - Wales eliminated
    CONMEBOL: 0/4 - Ecuador eliminated
    Africa: 1/5
    Asia: 0/6 - Qatar, Iran eliminated
    CONACAF: 1/4 - Canada eliminated
     
  9. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    A real shot for CAF to get 3 teams through.
     
  10. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    I may be wrong but I think Senegal is only African team with a positive World Cup record:
    5 wins, 3 draws and 3 losses (Turkey, Colombia, Holland).
     
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  11. Hayaka

    Hayaka Member+

    Jun 21, 2009
    San Francisco North Bay, Bel Marin Keys
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    If they beat Uruguay on Friday, Ghana will be at .500, with 6 wins 6 losses and 3 draws.
     
  12. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    Turkey should really be considered a draw.

    But yeah Senegal by far the best record among African teams, and only got eliminated last time because of yellows, otherwise it would be 3 for 3.

    Interesting fact about England vs African teams at worldcups. Not the best record though they haven't been beaten.

    1990 Cameroon tied England after 90 minutes
    2002 a poor Nigeria team tied England
    2010 a poor Algeria team tied England
    2018 England beat Tunisia in the last minute
     
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  13. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    This method is based on the UEFA club coefficient ranking: 2 points for a win, 1 point for a draw (KO stage matches which are decided on penalties are treated as draws and 1 point each is awarded) divided by the number of teams.
     
  14. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    They almost snuck 4 teams through, which would have been crazy! Tunisia came so close! (not that Ghana is in yet, of course).
     
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  15. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    Wow, with that Tunisia win - Africa with 16 pts out of the last 21.
     
  16. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    I turn off the game! Turns out the France goal was dissallowed! So much closer than thought.
     
  17. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I must say, I have no idea why it was disallowed. The FOX commentators were of no help, as usual. They kept saying offside, but an offside wouldn't require the referee to go check the monitor (plus it didn't look offside).

    I guess it was either interference from an offside player or a foul in the box. But that's only a guess.
     
  18. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    Griezmann was offside when ball was played (watch replay as he runs back from offside position).
    Yes, Tunisian headed it but as per new rules, the Tunisians play was not deliberate, hence Griezmann remained in an offside position.

    Read more here:
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/match-38-tun-fra-conger-nzl.2123668/
     
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  19. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    LOL

    Who would have thought Tunisia would beat France and tie Denmark, yet fail to get out of the group.

    They paid the price for comming out so flat against Australia.
     
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  20. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    The Iran-Tunisia curse continues. Only top 40ish ranked teams with multiple WC appearances to have never made the round of 16.
     
  21. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    Ivory Coast,

    yet they haven't had as many opportunities as Iran/Tunisia
     
  22. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    First win since 1978 :)
     
  23. Every Four Years

    May 16, 2015
    Miramar, Florida
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    They beat Panama in 2018.
     
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  24. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    FIFA Points Ranking after 40 games.
    If 2 points per win and 1 point per draw were given.

    CONMEBOL: 12/4 = 3.00
    UEFA: 35/13 = 2.69
    CAF: 13/5 = 2.60
    CONCACAF: 9/4 = 2.25
    AFC: 11/6 = 1.83
     
  25. Jon Stakes

    Jon Stakes Member+

    Egypt
    Nov 18, 2022
    UEFA loses all three games today.
     
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