The New Era of Financial Frugality - The Transfer Thread

Its the same level. The difference between us and them is quality of evaluation and strategic vision. If anything ManU has more money than us.

 

RM and MU the same level ?!? You joking right? RM is the most Elite, Top premium club, Great FC ever. RM is above any other club. RM it’s a culture, history, best players/Legends, a dream for most players, and always aspire to be the best.

 

On a sporting level, no it's not, it's not even close, they just happen to be English and all that translates to.

 

Lol a "nice player", he's one of the most promising strikers in Europe atm.

Guess what? We need a striker. But, pray tell, who fits your criteria of a RM-level striker that we can go after in the winter/summer?

 

I grew up as a child on Raul, Ronaldo Nazario, Zamorano, Ruud van nistelrooy, Del Pierro,Totti, Batistuta and other legends. For me it’s the Galacticos level like RC3, Figo, Zidane and etc quality players I want in my team.

unfortunately, today’s market has changed since then

 

Call me crazy but would anyone be interested in Mehdi Taremi as a backup 9 for Benzema? Wonder what it’d cost.

 

You are crazy.

 

Calm down lol, thats all great but they still have more money than us (and its not oil money), they have just been investing it stupidly in the last years. Hate them as much as you want (I know I do) but they are a huge club in terms of tradition, number of fans, infrastructure. It would take more than the last years of sporting failures to actually reduce their global status.

My point is since we can't compete with the likes of PSG and City on the market for the best players in the world (aka Mbappe and Haaland), our competitors are now teams like ManU, Bayern, Juventus etc. for players that could become the best in the world if we convince them to come here and then develop them as we did Vinicius.

 

They don't have more revenue than Real Madrid. If you mean a billion wasted on flop signings as "more money", then yea. If it's not oil/owner money, no other criteria to measure financial power than annual revenue.

 

You didn't answer my question.

Gapko isn't RM quality so who fits your criteria of a RM-level striker that we can go after in the winter/summer?

 

I haven't seen Gakpo play much. How good is he compared to PSV and Lyon version of Depay? He wasn't seen as a top club talent until recent months. Isn't he mainly a LW? Some here use that against Rodrygo playing No.9.

 

IMO we are now at a stage where we need to think of Benzema's replacement not his backup.

The Endrick deal looks dead. The Haaland ship sailed.

 

Nobody knows what Rodrygo is.

He was utilized as a RW, then as a second striker, then as 9, while he claimed his preferred position is a 10 which is sort of where Tite played him last night.

Edit: I am not advocating for us to sign Gapko just yet. I haven't seen enough of him.

 

Guess what? Gakpo has played in 3-4 positions for PSV and Holland as well. I saw many who follow PSV claim LW is his preferred position.

 

As I said they invest it poorly, but they do invest it which means they have it and it is more or less sustainable model. If they don't literally have more revenue than us, than we're both still more or less in the same class financially speaking.

Once again, the point is if ManU spent that money on the right players instead of the various Maguires, they wouldn't be where they are now sporting/competition wise, but in terms of club power they are still big. Us on the other hand, don't spend unless there is zero risk and most players who are with zero risk are out of our price range. But unlike ManU we still have the core of the squad from pre-oil money days so we can (still) afford to be conservative.

 

All of this points to the summer of 2024, when it’s going to be either Haaland or Mbappe. Both are going to cost truckloads of money.

I don’t see us spending 120m on Oshemeni, Duku, Gakpo, Nkunku, or whatever next summer.

we are going to limp along with Benz until he’s too cripple to walk with Rodrygo as the back up.

We’re not going to go all in for Bellingham so it’s going to be Fede/Cama/Tchoumeni in the midfield with Vinny Mbappe or Haaland and Rodrygo on the wings.

we need to spend some money on getting the next starting LB, rotation CM, and CF for the summer of 2023.

 

Oh I agree but I think we need some depth there regardless. Just throwing ideas around.

 

Thing is if Flo and Co. (Carlo included) wanted to enter the winter transfer market, I'd say yeah let's find a dude on a 1 or half year deal – some sort of contingency.

But the likely scenario is that we won't enter the upcoming transfer window, therefore in the summer we should be buying a replacement for Karim.

The narrative was that the WC will somehow unearth some hidden talent that our coaching staff and scouts somehow missed. A few posters like myself called this BS and were ridiculed.

Doesn't look like this WC is going to produce that magic bullet.

 

But but Mendy, he's world class and Carlo likes him, Carlo is never wrong

Nkunku to Chelsea is practically done.

I doubt Bellingham will come to RM (we're already preparing the fanbase for the mediocre Argentine alternative) and our Lord Savior Endrick clearly stated that he was after money for his family, something that Al-Khelaifi will certainly accomodate with grace – a bummer because I was really looking forward to Endrick's debut in 2025.

Haaland and Mbappe in 2024 will just be a diversion for our continued failure to sign a ST, Abu Dhabi and Qatar will never let them go.

 

Haaland has a release clause if 170m (pounds or euros). So it’s attainable if we want to spend the money. Mbappes deal was really only a 2 year extension with a 3rd year player option so he’s going to be available.

As I said. It’s bleak in the attacking market. I’d say ot the 300m for Haaland and be done with it.

Never thought Mendy was good for us. His best ability of being a true defender has slipped and he’s always been cement shoes and numptyness going forward. We need attacking outside backs.

Dani has a contract until 2025 and he’s Flos boy. No way he’s being shipped out early.

 

We should be all over this guy regardless. Enzo is like adding another Fede. Not sure how attainable though, the player apparently turned down City last summer as he wanted guaranteed playing time. Perhaps does one more season at Benfica to develop.

 

We best be looking at Gakpo

 

Well, we had our share of flops in Hazard, Jovic, Odriozola, Mariano etc. That's 220 ME in last 5 years. And Reinier for 30 ME which looks unlikely to pan out as of now. So your claim that we don't spend unless it's zero risk is not true.

We just learn from our mistakes and try to sign top tier talents because bust potential for anything less at a high pressure club like RM is very high. Barca have flops close a billion in Bartu era due to not keeping such standards in talent evaluation.

Also when you have a good transfer policy, naturally you don't have to keep spending on the same position unlike Man Utd. Like we had KCM for so long so only needed depth options like Kovacic. Also we have had 2nd highest wage bill in football for several years which takes out a good chunk of revenue just like transfer spending. Many don't consider that factor.

 

I see Enzo and Malo Gusto (RB) as attainable options this summer that could improve the team. Also club shouldn't overlook players like Brahim and Arribas who could significantly improve our attacking depth. One dead weight Mariano is finally off this summer and Hazard has shown he's totally finished. Should give youngsters a chance instead.