FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022: England Tournament Thread [R]

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Aug 4, 2022.

  1. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    He’s only just started training again. I think the bigger question is if he was ever really fit enough to come in the first place.
     
  2. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    Great group stage complete - 3 games, 7 points, 9 goals and 1st place

    20 of the 23 outfield players had minutes in the games, 2 of the 3 who didn't weren't fit for each of the games and key players rested at times so we are probably as fresh as anyone going into the knockouts.

    Big selection decisions for Southgate most notably in the wide areas - all 4 players have scored goals and have given GS a headache which is exactly what you want
     
  3. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Job done, but let's face it - Wales were absolutely dire.
     
  4. Jimmy Skitz

    Jimmy Skitz Member+

    Leicester City
    England
    Nov 4, 2020
    If this was not the World Cup I doubt he’d have missed a Leicester game. Not all situations are the same Southgate has sat back and allowed people to slate Maddison’s attitude for years, ignored him for at least 18 months when he was out performing everyone else bar Kane.

    Pretty much every England fan thinks Southgate doesn’t like him, he HAD to get Maddison on tonight to dispel all that because he’s not going to get the chance to in that scenario again.

    Does anyone on here think Southgate will look to Maddison if it’s 0-0 20 mins or less to go next match?
     
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  5. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Who gives a shit? Guys been injured and the other guys have all scored or assisted in his absence. Seriously if you can't leave the club biases at the door in a world cup you never will.

    England won 3-0 in case you missed it.
     
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  6. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    He hadn’t used Wilson for three years and has then brought him on twice.
     
  7. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    We have used 20 players. Four outfield and two goalkeepers as yet unused.
     
  8. MUFC20

    MUFC20 Member

    Jul 28, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Good win only caught the second half due to work.

    Senegal won’t be easy, can see it being a tight game but predict England will win 2-1.
     
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  9. nick p

    nick p Member+

    Jul 11, 2009
    Baltimore Maryland
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe that’s 2 games on bbc with 2 wins and 9 goals scored
     
  10. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    It is. But not back on the BBC now until a possible semi.
     
  11. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Itv next and the loathsome and dull as shit Lee dixon
     
  12. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Well, job done, was it ever in doubt ;)

    Controlled the game from start to finish but just upped the tempo when needed in the second half and then went into control mode knowing they have Wales on the counter and it’s was easy to be honest. Senegal will be a tougher test on Sunday however…..
     
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  13. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Gareth Southgate’s verdict

    In the first half we controlled the game but we didn’t create enough clear chances. We wanted a bit more thrust in the final third, to play forward a bit quicker. The second half, once we got the two goals, we knew that their spirit had probably gone. I thought we kept our discipline right until the end.

    It’s great for [Marcus Rashford]. He’s trained really well, I have to say, and he could have had a hat-trick. His free-kick was an incredible strike; that’s what he’s capable of. In moments I thought both [Rashford and Foden] were a bit quiet in the first half. We decided to switch them at half-time and they responded really well, and for them to both get their goals was great.

    I’ve played in front of England crowds like that. It’s an amazing feeling when you see them in such numbers, especially when you think how far they’ve had to travel. I thought we dealt with the pressure really well – we were calm and we showed our quality.
     
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  14. Andre99

    Andre99 Member

    Liverpool
    England
    Jul 12, 2021
    Ok, this has basically been 3 training matches. USA is decent, but Iran and Wales. Two of the worst teams in the tournament. Becoming no 2 in this group. I would say is a better path then winning the group. Why? Because of France in the quarter by winning vs Brazil in the Semis if No 2. But, if England can somehow beat France, the semi final will be not that bad. I figure Switzerland is a probable opponent there. Brazil, yeah England will have to beat them or Spain in the final, one of them will knock out the other, but there is little hope of anyone knocking them out.
     
  15. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Isn’t ITV the bogey channel?
     
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  16. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    I'm really glad we've got that game out of the way now. Not that I thought we were going to lose mind, just happy that the circus is over.
    The welsh players have been bigging this match up since before the tournament started and they had 2 games to play before us.
    Now we can move on and focus on playing a proper team.
     
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  17. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    That’s true. Through the Netherlands feel like the type of team this squad would do badly against while Senegal is a lottery. France could have to get past Argentina first.
     
  18. Wendigo7

    Wendigo7 Member+

    Bournemouth
    England
    Mar 31, 2015
    Poole
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I think much is made of the group... Iran, USA and Wales... primed for us to slip up.

    Looking at the rest of the teams, in the end we've managed the group pretty well. Onto Senegal, who are a good team but a winnable game.
     
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  19. Andre99

    Andre99 Member

    Liverpool
    England
    Jul 12, 2021
    Of course, but honestly, group A has been pretty bad too, and both Netherlands and Senegal are not the kind of teams you should prioritize to avoid if you have much ambition in in this Cup. France vs Argentina, that would be really cool. England cruising through the next round and those to teams batteling it out in a 120 min + 30 min extra time affair. I would love that!
     
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  20. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    Rashford is undroppable after that performance. Looked like Mbappe .
     
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  21. Jimmy Skitz

    Jimmy Skitz Member+

    Leicester City
    England
    Nov 4, 2020
    It’s Rashford + either Saka or Foden either side of Kane
     
  22. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I’ve checked Getty Images and I don’t think Ben White was even at the stadium tonight so I’m not sure how long it will be till he is training again. As Maddison was on the bench for the first two matches you don’t have to be named as a sub to be able to sit in the technical area,
     
  23. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Always said rashford has as much talent as mbappe just badly managed
     
  24. Jimmy Skitz

    Jimmy Skitz Member+

    Leicester City
    England
    Nov 4, 2020
    Apparently he was ill
     
  25. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I know. But I wondered if he had recovered enough to sit in the technical area as non named player - as Maddison did the first two matches
     

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