Rumor: Next England Manager Thread Discussion

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  1. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Italy was at the 2014 World Cup - they beat us in the group stage. Plus they were on an incredible winning run going into the euros and looked the best team throughout the tournament.
     
  2. TitoTata

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    Jun 26, 2014
    #77 TitoTata, Oct 26, 2022
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    I said “ since about “ as I wasn’t sure ..
    I knew it was ages though

    So Italy have failed to qualify since then .. missing two world cups .. 8 years in the international wilderness yet still able to outplay Southgate’s selection and tactics
     
  3. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Twitter is literally split 50/50 between those saying Gerard will be hired and those saying Tuchel will be, People seem convinced it be one of them.
     
  4. TitoTata

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    Jun 26, 2014
    Na
    Has to be between Potter and Howe but if they are impossible then Rodgers with Rooney as an outside bet
     
  5. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
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    Nov 5, 2021
    I think they might not want to reject Gerrard and Lampard to go non English.
     
  6. Fireburn47

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    Nov 5, 2021
    Any new manager search is basically going to be reports of approaching Howe - he rejects , reports of approaching Potter - he rejects then going down the list of suitable managers.
     
  7. Fireburn47

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    Nov 5, 2021
    I still think Dyche is a potential next manager due to the impression that he would be more press friendly.
     
  8. TitoTata

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    Jun 26, 2014
    No way

    Rodgers is back in contention now and there’s still Howe or Potter
     
  9. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
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    Nov 5, 2021
    Will Rodgers want to quit Leicester now? Plus going on social media nobody seems to want Rodgers. He feels like everyone else British is a more popular choice.
     
  10. Fireburn47

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    Nov 5, 2021
    The FA are clearly going to approach Howe if Southgate goes after Qatar but there is very little chance of him accepting.
     
  11. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Exclusive: Hunt for Gareth Southgate successor launched three years ago
    England manager's future will become a hot talking point over the next month if the team fails in Qatar


    A "succession plan" to equip the Football Association for Gareth Southgate's eventual departure was started three years ago, the architect behind it has revealed.

    The England manager leads the nation to a third major tournament next week – but his current deal keeps him in the job until Euro 2024.

    However; after Southgate declared in September that "contracts are irrelevant" if the team fails in Qatar, the FA has been encouraged to make sure it is prepared. "You need to be ahead of the game with that," said Les Reed, who departed as the FA's technical director in 2020.

    The FA remains committed to backing Southgate ahead of the tournament, but John McDermott, Reed's successor, would be a key figure in identifying replacement candidates should the situation change.

    Reed, who recommended his former assistant McDermott to replace him, believes Southgate should stay in the job as it stands.

    However, he says he hopes his successor has "cracked on" with a project he started in 2019. The vastly-experienced executive, who has had two spells in the FA role, began implementing a succession system he utilised in the Premier League.

    "When I went back in [for his second spell at the FA], one of the first things I did was to try and implement what I had done at Southampton," Reed explained. "It was a succession plan on the basis that you can't sit there blindly thinking the manager is going to go on forever.

    "You better be prepared for the day when either he has to be moved on or or by circumstances where he moves on either by choice or by the fact that someone bigger and better comes and takes him away. You need to be ahead of the game with that."

    Southgate, 52, is England's most successful tournament manager since Sir Alf Ramsey – but is currently on his worst run in six years and facing some supporter unrest.

    The FA would have been expected to look to replace Southgate with another English coach but a lack of realistic candidates – and Sarina Wiegman's Euro title-winning success as Lionesses' boss – may widen the field.

    The likes of Northern Irishman Brendan Rodgers or Mauricio Pochettino, who has close links to the country, regularly feature among the runners and riders.

    Pochettino, who McDermott worked with at Tottenham, was at Wembley for England’s final World Cup warm-up draw with Germany – although there is no suggestion the Argentinean is pursuing the job.

    Graham Potter had been viewed as a potential successor to Southgate before he joined Chelsea, while Eddie Howe is happy at Newcastle United.

    Southgate reaffirmed his commitment to England this week, however, and the FA is entertaining no talk of him leaving. Reed recognises, however, that much hinges on performances over the coming weeks.

    "My view is, if I was still there, I'd be saying 'let's do our best to keep him because he's actually a model for that role at the moment, but we might need to help him to make the necessary changes based on what happens in Qatar'," he added.

    Southgate, who Reed has known since he was a trainee at Crystal Palace, is not the type to go "queueing for a Premier League job". But should a change in management take place, then McDermott, chief executive Mark Bullingham, and David Gill, the former Manchester United chief executive, would be certain to play a key role in recommending candidates to the board.

    Reed, who now has a sporting director role at Wrexham, says the FA must be prepared to stick to its plan to ensure it is not distracted by the "noise" and endless agent calls.

    "It's about ensuring we have got a strategy in place for what the next England manager should really look like," he added. "That should be in place now. I don't know that it is. But it would have been something I'd have been pushing.

    "I'm hoping that John will have cracked on with some of that. But there will be no shortage of candidates thrown up from one. It's just whether you've got a strategic plan in place for how you're going to select them. What the criteria is for the next England manager in order to get rid of the noise and the chaff that's coming your way."

    Southgate’s current contract, which he signed last November and runs to the summer of 2024, is believed to be worth in the region of £5 million-a-year. The FA would also have to consider candidates who could fit into their budget with the association unable to pay the kind of wages many of the world’s top coaches can earn in the Premier League or abroad.


    The runners and riders to replace Southgate

    The Football Association is committed to Gareth Southgate - for now. Yet after his most difficult run in six years, there is a lot running on England's performances in Qatar. Telegraph Sport explores the runners and riders should the job become available:

    Mauricio Pochettino

    Having been sacked by Paris Saint-Germain in the summer, Pochettino's presence in the stands at Wembley for England’s final World Cup warm-up draw with Germany intensified debate over whether or not the Argentine should be considered.

    Brendan Rodgers

    With the FA unable to compete financially with the big Premier League teams, the prospect of pursuing Rodgers might be boosted by his frustrations over transfer funds at Leicester City. The former Liverpool manager has been linked with the England job before.

    Sarina Wiegman

    The composure with which she has transformed the Lionesses into world-beaters after the Phil Neville era is as impressive as the men's team transformation under Southgate. She, and another Chelsea boss Emma Hayes, would be a radical choice - but offer no shortage of tactical nous.

    Graham Potter

    Prior to his Chelsea move, Potter would have been a runaway favourite. But the FA may now struggle to match his earnings and immediate ambitions.

    Eddie Howe

    Another candidate who may now be out of reach. Howe is understood to be very happy at Newcastle's rapid ascendency as a Champions League contender.

    Frank Lampard

    He has his hands full at Everton, but it is thought the England job would appeal to the 106-capped former midfielder. His former midfield partner Steven Gerrard slips down the rankings after underwhelming at Aston Villa.



    Sounds like it will be Rodgers or Lampard.
     
  12. TitoTata

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    Jun 26, 2014
    Rodgers plays good football and gets even mediocre players playing well .. he should blossom with England
     
  13. TitoTata

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    Jun 26, 2014
    Maybe we should just go and get Brentford’s Thomas Frank :)
     
  14. Fireburn47

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    Nov 5, 2021
    True but England have had a bad recent record with managers the FA only reluctantly appointed.
     
  15. Fireburn47

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    Nov 5, 2021
    The Telegraph say it could be tempting to the FA to hire Thomas Tuchel.
     
  16. Fireburn47

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    Nov 5, 2021
    #91 Fireburn47, Nov 15, 2022
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    Rodgers is now the bookies favourite. I might be wrong but he doesn’t seem that popular really. I don’t see many people saying they want him with people either wanting Potter or Howe or Tuchel or Pocchetino.
     
  17. TitoTata

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    Jun 26, 2014
    Perfect..

    He’s saved his reputation with 5 wins and that one close fought defeat to ManC
     
  18. Fireburn47

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    Nov 5, 2021
  19. Fireburn47

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  20. TitoTata

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    Jun 26, 2014
  21. Fireburn47

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    Nov 5, 2021
    Yeah. They will go on and on about how bad it is for the FA to have to ask someone non English so much the FA will simply go for an English manager to avoid complaints.
     
  22. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    I think whoever the new manager would be, foreign or English/British, I think it’s imperative that they have to follow the good work that’s been done by Southgate. What I mean by that is being open with the press ( even if we don’t always like the questioning ) and fans with the good Public relations, making it a friendly and welcoming environment for the players and never should go back to the dark days of having clique’s and having players not enjoying joining up with the squads. Despite what we think of Southgate tactically and squad selections, he totally changed the environment for the players and in a very good way. This has to continue….
     
    Toosaul and Jenks repped this.
  23. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

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    Nov 5, 2021
    #98 Fireburn47, Nov 19, 2022
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    That is important. There a couple of possible contenders who I am not sure would be able to fully do so due to their prior interactions with the press and/or reports of constantly falling out with players and divided toxic dressing rooms.
     
  24. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    People on Twitter need to accept Potter and Howe are not viable options. I never see anyone say they want the mangers who actually likely to be appointed by the FA.
     
  25. Wendigo7

    Wendigo7 Member+

    Bournemouth
    England
    Mar 31, 2015
    Poole
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    ******** it.

    Get Bielsa!
     

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