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  1. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    ref letting game get out of hand
     
  2. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Very poor from Wolfsburg.... it looks like the same nonsense witnessed last season.

    It's just direct long balls, or 1v1 play, without any real compose/good decision making in the opponents final 3rd.
     
  3. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    WOB getting out played last few minutes and cuz no new fresh players
     
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  4. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I think you mean tactics.

    Hegering coming on hasn't improved the CM struggles, and they've been even more direct for the last 20 mins.
     
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  5. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    so much for Stroot having confidence in Wassmuth anymore Last year’s tio scores gets zero playing time(though she was back last game)
     
  6. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Trash...:thumbsdown: Wolfsburg came into this season with a stronger squad, but Stroot can't seem to make it benefit his team, or see this depth help him legitimately progress the playing style towards a more controlled approach.

    This match defined by the absence of Oberdorf, and honestly doesn't bode well for the rest of this season, if it mean's watching Popp, or Hegering try to replicate what she would provide this team.
     
  7. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    The high energy 1v1 direct style of last season was on full display again, and just like last season would only negatively affect this side facing a defensively organised opponent.

    Waßmuth and Roord would find a way to make this style work last season, as they would usually end up playing more like a front 2 partnership within a 4-4-2. But with Pajor expected to do it all on her own, this would look less effective than it did with a weaker 11 on the field...:confused:
     
  8. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    3 matches within 7 days (Pokal, UWCL, Buli)... it's worth to factor that in. :coffee:
     
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  9. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    In the home match, if Oberdorf isn't available, Stroot HAS to trust Demann to play in the DM role, mainly to help establish a more controlled team based style to break down Roma's defence.

    A poor transitional approach in mid-field removing Wolfsburg's major strength in width. Brand, SJJ, Huth, would have no real effect Vs Roma, creating a shocking return to watching kick it long and hope Pajor does something...:speechless:
     
  10. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
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    Jónsdóttir looked very dangerous for Wolfsburg: I am happy she didn't start.
     
  11. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    For Stroot, this might actually be really good news; getting a series of games to finally understand what his team requires to perform better...:cautious:

    Too often this season, Wolfsburg able to feign the appearance of being a complete team. But between forcing Popp and Pajor into the same team, the way the wings function, or what happens with in absence of Obderdorf, it's obvious this seasons stronger depth hasn't resulted in a better team.

    The next time they face Roma, the performance can't replicate more of the same issues we all witnessed last season, or had on show once again tonight.
     
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  12. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    LOL... looking dangerous, Vs actually being effective, aren't mutually inclusive when it comes to SJJ.

    Stroot needs to smash it into Brand's head that she has speed that needs to be used in wide spaces, while he also needs to try and teach SJJ to slow down and take care in her decision making.

    If you could fuse both players into one being, you'd probably have the perfect winger lol. But the way Roma's defence remained organised, it wasn't good for the Wolfsburg wingers having a poor mid-field unable to get the ball to any of them in positions to be genuinely effective tonight.
     
  13. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    #763 Batfink, Nov 23, 2022
    Last edited: Nov 23, 2022
    I'll leave the Roma Vs Wolfsburg match with this though... if Popp starts the next match in a CM role, Roma could easily draw again, or even manage a win if things go well for them...:cautious:

    And now it's on to the Camp Nou, to witness the destruction of Bayern Munich's women, facing a Barca side that has no issue horrifically exploiting tactical ineptitude lol.

    The negative side of my brain saying Bayern will stupidly revert to a back 5, bunker for their lives, and still lose by... 3-6 goals, scoring ZERO. But the positive side of my brain says Bayern able to use a high defensive line of their own to press Barca, and find success using a strong transitional game, in a game they lose by a much closer margin...:unsure:
     
  14. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Bayern have struggled in each of their UWCL matches so far this season... and I'm unfortunately expecting this to become very UGLY, burgeoning on being completely embarrassing...
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  15. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    it makes me cringe watching Brand forced by Stroot into an inverted winger position. Basically Huth as well, but she’s way more experienced at it.
    Brand so much funner these days when playing for MVT
    not sure what you want out of them? I know you love deliberate possession, but geez wiz, German mens had 73% possession but still got blown out of the water by the quick countering Blue Samurai’s

    with WOB looking like something like an 4-2-2-1-1, it was like keeping up with an pinball ball, lol
    BM looked very professional vs Duiseburg the other, strong high pressure applied by right from the start. They’ll do well enough, just don’t them to win vs an Barca squad that looks like shoo in favorites to take the CL crown
     
  16. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Huth is a right winger, who's predominantly right footed; this not being anything like an inverted winger...:confused:

    Honestly... a lot of Wolfsburg's issues last night come from them having a horrible mid-field performance. In the end, this failure forcing SJJ and Pajor trying to do it all on their own...:thumbsdown:
     
  17. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Again... this a mainly problem with Wolfburg's style this season, as Brand will constantly make movements towards the center of the field for Germany, but probably doing so in the knowledge she'll be able to use combination plays to take advantage of open space.

    The goal Brand would create for Krumbiegel Vs the USwnt actually a rare sight. Seeing Oberdorf's long pass actively forcing her to run into open space, rather than receive the ball to her feet.

    But typically a lot of Brand's best offensive work typically produced away from the wings, where she seems to prefer to use combination plays more accustomed to a CAM/#10 to create chances. Brand's honestly just never been a provider of many crosses...:cautious:
     
  18. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I was waiting for you to use this as the next flawed premise for more of your horrible analogies...:rolleyes: seriously, it's like me using the USmnt to try and asses the women's team...
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    But last night showed us Wolfsburg repeating many of the same negatives that held them back last season. Their inability to CONTROL tempo, or execute efficient transitional, again resulting in random long balls, and trying to win 1v1 duels this time Vs Roma...:thumbsdown:.

    And honestly, this simply isn't good enough, and was reflected in their draw Vs another UWCL side they really should be beating, following a season we've all witnessed Lyon replicate and then improve on Wolfsburg's style to defeat Barca in last seasons final.
     
  19. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    You laugh, but it's blatantly clear using Popp in mid-field doesn't work anymore... her performances far bellow the standards currently expected from the games elite/strong CM/DM's right now.

    But to then replace her in the 2nd half with Hegering....:speechless: It just reinforced Wolfsburg's inability to control tempo from mid-field, and saw their shape and then the game in general, all degrade into a physical battle of kick and chase, where Roma were far more comfortable to successfully compete.
     
  20. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
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    My fears knowing all of Bayern's play coming through GPV this season (most touches of any player in the league...o_O), as I have ZERO belief in the Zadrazil - Stanway double 6 being able to contend with Barca's mid-field trio.

    Previous Bayern teams struggled with quick transition, but could still press and control possession well enough to be competitive Vs anyone. So without Lohmann who remains a transitional monster, the new coach only has Bühl/Kett as genuinely effective transitional players this season, with Laurent a potential huge joker with her electric speed over distances too...:unsure:

    The formation will tell us more... but if it's what I think it's going to be, we'll probably be watching GPV and Stanway as the main focus of Bayern's play.
     
  21. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I wouldn’t be able to watch cuz a big family holiday in my neck of the woods. But looks like Dallmann’s injured & not playing abs no “freakin” Saki in the staring lineup again
     
  22. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member+

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  23. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    0-0 halftime their half way out of the woods. Willing to bet be gone to an 5-back. Wonder why they haven’t started the speedier Laurent instead of Kett? And I noticed they got Lohmann listed on the bench
     
  24. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
  25. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Kett was better in previous matches, and is probably more responsible defensively too. But it definitely feels like Laurent could be introduced and make a significant difference to Bayern's countering attacking.

    If Bayern can continue finding ways around Barca's high press, they could find chances in the 2nd half...:cautious:. But the main focus should probably continue on not doing anything dumb lol.

    Oh... and Lohmann being on the bench is definitely a nice surprise, but I doubt she'll see any time of the field.
     

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