Pre-match: Can't believe it took this long for this thread, the 2024 Presidential election thread!

Discussion in 'Elections' started by ceezmad, Nov 7, 2020.

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Who will be the 2 Candidates for the 2 big parties in 2024

  1. Joe Biden

    29 vote(s)
    59.2%
  2. Kamala Harris

    13 vote(s)
    26.5%
  3. Bernie Sanders

    1 vote(s)
    2.0%
  4. Ted Cruz

    1 vote(s)
    2.0%
  5. Donald Trump (from prison)

    18 vote(s)
    36.7%
  6. One of the Trump idiots

    4 vote(s)
    8.2%
  7. A Never Trump Republican

    2 vote(s)
    4.1%
  8. The dude from Florida (not florida man)

    6 vote(s)
    12.2%
  9. A Trumpian Republican

    9 vote(s)
    18.4%
  10. Hail Grimes!

    8 vote(s)
    16.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Sounders78

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    As Lindsey Graham has showed us, they won't even wait that long.
     
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  2. JohnR

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    For what it's worth, the stock of Digital World Acquisition Company, which is scheduled to buy Trump Media, rose from $17 to $25 on the news that Trump was to announce his Presidency. It is now at $21, having dropped $4 after last night's speech. Pretty clearly, that speech went poorly.
     
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  3. The Jitty Slitter

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    The pivot continues

     
  4. Sounders78

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    Republicans are spineless - we've known that for quite a while. McConnell is often likened to a turtle, but he's more a banana slug.
     
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  5. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

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    Pretty much.. Saying he has no dog in the fight is just as well an admission that he will back Trump if/when he becomes the candidate. If Republicans had a spine, they would be doing everything they could to make sure Trump is put in his place and would be helping the congressional and criminal investigations into him... Instead, they stand on the side lines and say it is just politics.
     
  6. JohnR

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    Jun 23, 2000
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    Mitch is sniping at Donnie, he clearly wants him to go away. But yes he will not take a stand, the way that Mitt has.
     
  7. soccernutter

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    Actually that is a great passive-aggressive attack on Trump. McConnell is saying he's going to ignore Trump, which is Trumps worst nightmare - to be ignored.
     
  8. The Jitty Slitter

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    The problem is turtle once again accepts election denial, insurrection, nuclear secrets theft etc... this is the problem with the idea that GOP leadership is setting any new standards
     
  9. JohnR

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    Standards? What does Mitch care about standards? His sole problem with Trump is that it seems that Trump is costing the party votes rather than helping it. Mitch would let Donald Trump attack his personal enemies with the National Guard, while delivering him an endless supply of 15 year old girls, if that meant that Republicans were likelier win elections.
     
  10. chaski

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    Nope.

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  11. charlie15

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    That is the calculation....Pretty simple.

    “We have at least 30% of the Republican primary electorate that will do anything to support the president. And the value of their votes becomes proportionately higher if a bunch of others pile in the race and dilute the not-Trump vote and divide it up between them.”

    — A campaign strategist for Donald Trump, speaking anonymously to NBC News.
     
  12. JamesA

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    Well, Kanye West just announced he's running in 2024 :ROFLMAO:
     
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  13. charlie15

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    The clown car is filling up nicely.
     
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  14. JamesA

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    This is exactly what happened in 2015. Rubio, Cruz and Kasich all went on far longer than they should have before dropping out. This led to Trump using his 30% GOP base getting him enough early momentum that was able to steamroll towards the end.
     
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  15. ceezmad

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    The new "liberals worst nightmare"
     
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  16. Sounders78

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    Is Elon Musk next?
     
  17. Cris 09

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    Liz Cheney!!!
     
  18. The Jitty Slitter

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    Yes - Wilson spends some time on this in his original ETTD book

    Especially big donors stayed on the sidelines hoping Trump would kill off the candidates they didn't like and saving them money, instead of piling in to try to kill trump early
     
  19. The Jitty Slitter

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    At least Greenwald has his perfect candidate
     
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  20. EvanJ

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    Somebody said that Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, and Wisconsin will be the only competitive states. That neglects Nebraska 2 where I live. The way Nebraska 2 would decide the president is if Arizona, Georgia, and Nevada are the only states that flip. Then without Nebraska 2, the Democrat would have 269, and the Republican would have 268. You can make more scenarios if you include faithless electors. For example, instead of flipping Arizona, a Republican could flip Wisconsin, and have the Democrat have one faithless elector.
     
  21. superdave

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    @Kazuma its your time to shine!

     
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  22. Kazuma

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    I've been away on adventures for a bit and finally seeing this.

    However, for as long as I could remember I never understood the importance of Iowa. I'm trying to remember when it's had any significance in elections when it really hasn't (The winner dropped out of the race in 2020's!), etc.

    As for Michigan being one of the early states, it makes sense given that one Macomb County has been used as a bellwether of sorts, Detroit is a majority black city that's slowly getting safer (I was downtown a few weeks ago and it struck me how different it was from the Super Bowl in 2006), college towns like Ann Arbor, suburbs of Oakland are all over the place (Mallory McMorrow's district for instance).

    But either way, Michigan's also played an important role in elections.
     
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  23. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    We don't have a 2024 Congressional thread yet but I can already predict one incumbent retirement with ease.

    ******** off back to your corporate donor retreat, Kyrsten.
     
  24. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

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    She's chaotic neutral. So it would make more sense for her to run in the next Senate campaign and get 2% of the vote, but flip the seat to some Republican who earnestly believes that alien pedolizards control the government.
     
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  25. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    I think it's safe to say if she runs, she'll get far less than 2% of the vote. Arizona Dems came to play.
     

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