Jan 6, 2022 - The Continuation Foul

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  1. roby

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    Fats Domino! :thumbsup:
     
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  2. Auriaprottu

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    Stop. You're as bad as those people who vote in Best Guitard polls when the choices are Eddie Van Halen and Byian Setzer or Nugent or some such.

    It's like voting for orange concentrate
     
  3. taosjohn

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    Dec 23, 2004
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    Aww, Roby's just reminding us who he used to babysit...

    What gets me are the "40 most influential guitarists" lists without Charlie Christian, or "50 greatest female vocalists" with Ella Fitzgerald at #37.
     
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  4. roby

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    Whut!!! No love for Roy Clark! :eek:

    Ps...40+ Blood Reds ripening on my ultra dwarf 5' orange tree. :thumbsup:
     
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  5. Auriaprottu

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    Roy could play multiple styles and instruments. Totally different situation.

    What a lot of young people do when thinking about guitarists is not unlike calling Phil Kenzie the greatest sax player ever, or, worse, Clarence Clemons.
     
  6. Auriaprottu

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    The maters are good news! It's tough to find good ones these days.
     
  7. taosjohn

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    Yeah, you'd think those people had never heard of Bobby Keyes...













    :p:ROFLMAO:
     
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  8. Deadtigers

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    I have seen those lists and no Robert Johnson. If he ain't on there, the. The list can't be serious. Also if they make Clapton top 10, I am not bothering.

    This is more cutting room floor discussion.
     
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  9. soccernutter

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    #Jane Collective
     
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  10. Auriaprottu

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    Googled. Repped.

    I was just thinking about the number of churchy people who are otherwise liberal but can't get past their own beliefs to join the fight against the right on abortion. A lot of those people are Black abd Brown, unfortunately. Because of my job, I have first hand experience in the destructive nature of children born to parents who were unprepared to rear them. One of the biggest battles the Black community faces is how to embrace waiting on parenthood until finances and maturity set in. I remember hearing someone at one of our college assemblies say that we need to avoid pregnancy until the late 20s/early 30s, have no more than two kids, and have them at least two years apart. I got dragged over the coals on social media by other Black folks for saying so, but we have a taller hill to climb, and the rock we push is being pushed from the other side.

    Bottom line? POCs can help out more than we are, but we have to free ourselves from faith to do it. And to do that, we need to want to do it. Right now, we're still praising God for the last 400 years.
     
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  11. taosjohn

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    If the list is "Influential guitarists" I'd say Clapton is top 10. It was a decade and more after he showed up before the next young guitar player who was both not bound to the Clapton template and not already in place when Clapton surfaced. That, I think, was Tom Verlaine...

    And the whole metal ethos that proficiency = art goes back to Clapton more than Page even, or Brann or Beck.

    But Clapton himself was enormously influenced by Johnson, Christian, and Otis Rush-- and also not all that for originality within the influences.
     
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  12. Boandlkramer

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    JFC, i cAnT take this any longer….

    Can we PLEASE stipp cluttering up the threads
     
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  13. soccernutter

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    Re-emerged around here (since it was Chicago) about the time of the SCOTUS draft opinion. Every now and then, I'll see a t-shirt or something which I *think* might be them.
     
  14. taosjohn

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    Dec 23, 2004
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    Well it is hard to see the harm when there's no actual "thread news" to respond to. The better we understand each other on other topics, the more we'll get out of on-topic discussions.

    It often amazes me, for example, that people who have been around here for a decade or two react to Auria without any awareness of who he really is.
     
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  15. Auriaprottu

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    Whoops, you said oranges... my bad.

    Have you noticed an increase in the thickness of grapefruit rinds since you were a kid? I ask because I've been buying them on and off for about the last decade, and they seem to be getting thicker rinds (same size sphere, but less fruit).
     
  16. soccernutter

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    Agreed, though there is a cycle. One of the great things I liked when teaching in Memphis is that every now and then I'd get into this area of conversation with my students. For many of them, particularly the females, there was a sense of achievement in being able to have get pregnant/have a kid. And that was on top of all the attention. And it was all normal because that is what they all saw every day....

    ....and then I'd ask them if I thought anybody in my high school had kids before they graduated high school, or then college. And I'd ask them about our parents, if any of them had kids before high school graduation. Once I got to the differences, I pointed out all the time that we had to study, and go places and study abroad, and things like that. Part of the conversation was about how having kids was both a time and a financial strain before starting a career. And some of the students who were parents would chime in and explain the challenges to those who were asking questions. It was simple things like the time to take their kid to the doctor or get medicine at 2am when they were sick. Stuff their juniors hadn't thought about.
    And I suspect I could have this conversation with them for a number of reasons:
    1 - I am not Christian, and was open about them with them
    2 - There was a general disgust at the church/pastors because the students knew a lot of them were having affairs, and some even sleeping with girls their age
    3 - There was an effort by a lot of the staff, female and male (most staff were Black) to get them to think of settling first.
    4 - A few of us would bring out numbers such as earnings or cost of raising a child.

    It was one of the contradictions I saw in Memphis. There was a lot of Church-is-community, but also the recognition that it gets abused in a lot of ways. And at least in Memphis, there was a marked difference between those 15 to 20 years older (devoted), those my age (it's something you do), and those 20 years younger (sure, but I'm not really in it). But it was very much a community. I'd be interested to see how the age group a generation below you views church.

    And as a side note, one of the things which I read regarding women and Church was that many starting around 30 (give or take) started to be self-selected single because they were all looking for a men who was equal to "Jesus." And that is impossible to find. It was also clear regarding those who were single.
     
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  17. Auriaprottu

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    I'm very curious about what you mean here- we can take it to PMs if you like.

    I see that the tangents really do bug BandL (that sounds like a railroad), and I'm willing to help not extend them.
     
  18. taosjohn

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    Dec 23, 2004
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    In stores, absolutely-- all or most citrus actually.
     
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  19. roby

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    I haven't bought any whole grapefruit in 20 yrs +/-. I found it to be a PITA cutting out the pieces so this is how I buy them. :thumbsup:
    [​IMG]
     
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  20. taosjohn

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    Nothing that should be controversial, I think. It probably should have said "seem to react."

    I try pretty hard to visualize the person, what I know of them, before I read the post; but I feel as though every day I read at least one post by someone who has been around awhile but has responded to someone else who has been around awhile as though they have no idea who the person behind the post that they are responding to really is. People fail to remember that you are black, no shrinking violet, and will occasionally read a supportive post as though it was the opposite.

    People forget that this'n is female, that'n is gay, the other'n is young, Roby is old enough to be my much older brother, Segroves is not the guy to challenge on Indian affairs or architecture and construction, MITH is a bit of a butthead but the go-to guy on lighting, Naughtius is Brit and sort of pinkish but has a very good and useful read on affairs in the Mother Kingdom, and so on for thirty or forty or fifty other posters. If we are going to discuss constructively we need to keep in mind not merely who's who, but also who's what and where notions are originating...

    There's no real good reason to look down on newbies-- but man it does make things smoother if they lurk for a while developing a cast list before they sit down at the table and ante up.

    I used you as an example because is my perception that you draw an extra ration of mis- or putative mis-understanding from posters who feel you should not be posting in ways that make some types of folk uncomfortable; some because they take you for white, others because they think black folk should avoid all "divisive" opinions so we can all just get along. And some because they want to tell you that you are thr problem, not them.

    And anyone who expects that of you has been paying insufficient attention and has unrealistic expectations of the world.

    Also I used you as an example because our very first exchange lo these many years ago featured me stepping in it by not knowing you were black-- your username initially triggered my "H.P.Lovecraft" sensors instead...

    Anyway, if I'm wrong about much of that, educate me.
     
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  21. chad

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    or Taang!
     
  23. Auriaprottu

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    I don't say I'm Black very often, so I can get that people either don't know or forgot. I do have to say being accused of solipsism has been the high point...
     
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  24. roby

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    I'm pretty sure we share the same emotional support animal...a chicken.

    A four piece

    With biscuit! :)
     
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  25. Auriaprottu

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    and slaw!

    My fast chicken taste is weird... Popeyes regular, but with KFC's slaw. There's an intersection in town where they're across the street from one another.

    Getting priced out of kalbi, don't know why. Is the price of beef getting this high? A plate was $18 six months ago, now almost $30.
     
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